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(Adding what name to put if the subject's name constantly changes from game to game (as seen with various enemies), also for the Foreign Names, since this is an English Wiki, we should use the English translation if an official English name isn't found.)
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*Mariopedia is an English language wiki, so the name of an article should correspond to the '''most commonly used English name''' of the subject, which, given our user and visitor demographics, means the '''North American name'''. For example, the North American title of "''[[Mario Strikers Charged]]''" takes precedence over the PAL region's "''Mario Strikers Charged Football''" title.
*If a subject isn't released in North America, but is released in another English-speaking region (i.e. Europe or Australia), the name they provide should be used for the article. If there is a conflict of which source to use, the region where the game was released first will have priority (i.e. the '''first international English name''' will be used).
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*If a subject's name has changed over time, the more commonly used modern name should be used as the title, rather than the historic name. For example, [[Princess Peach]]'s original English name was "Princess Toadstool", however, she is usually called "Princess Peach" in recent games, so the article's title is "Princess Peach".
**However in cases where the subject's name constantly changes from game to game, the name it is commonly identified as should be used as the title. For example [[Koopa Paratroopa]] is frequently referred to as "Paratroopa" (and in some cases, other names too) however, "Koopa Paratroopa" is the most well-known name so the article's title is "Koopa Paratroopa".
*If there is no official name in any language, then a conjectural title is developed if the subject is notable enough for an article. For example, the unnamed mayor of [[Fahr Outpost]] in ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'' has been given the conjectural yet straightforward name "[[Fahr Outpost mayor]]", as he plays a role in the game's story, unlike most NPCs, which are not granted conjecturally named articles.
*When naming an article, do '''not''' use game abbreviations. (e.g. use [[Bully (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)|Bully (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'')]] as opposed to {{fake link|Bully (''M&L:PIT'')}} or {{fake link|Bully (''Partners in Time'')}}).
**Note that this does not apply to ''Mario Kart'' console abbreviation article identifiers. See the [[#Shared titles|shared titles]] section for more details.
 
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#'''Name provided in-game or in the enclosed instruction manual''' – Ideally, the subject is named in the game itself, but whatever instruction material is enclosed with the game is also considered a primary naming source. If there is inconsistency between the manual and the game itself regarding a name, the game's version takes precedence.
#'''Name from a Nintendo Player's Guide, ''Nintendo Power'' magazine, or a Prima Games guide from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]''-onward''' – A name from a Nintendo Player's Guide (also commonly known as a Nintendo Power guidebook) or a ''Nintendo Power'' issue is an acceptable alternative. For games released after 20072012, this source can no longer be used since this source is currently discontinued. ''[[Super Paper Mario Galaxy 2]]'' is the last game in the ''Mario'' series to be covered by Nintendo Power. After Nintendo Power's sales to Future Publishing in 2007, Nintendo of America signed an exclusive agreement with publisher [[Prima Games]] for the rights to official English Nintendo strategy guides. As such, Prima guides released starting with ''Super Mario Galaxy'' are considered to occupy the same tier of officiality as Nintendo Power.
#'''Name from a pre-''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' Prima Games Strategy Guide or any other third-party guide''' – A name from an officially-licensed Prima Games Strategy Guide (when they were published concurrently with ''Nintendo Power'') is also an acceptable alternative, though in case of contradictions, the Nintendo Power name takes priority. This also applies to other official third-party guides by companies such as Bradygames. For Japanese names, guides published by [[Shogakukan]] (Nintendo's official guidebook licensee) take priority over other publications.
#'''Name used in officially licensed media''' – A name from any officially Nintendo-licensed non-video game media source. This includes cartoons, movies, magazines, comics and web content. Like games, North American media names get priority, followed by the first international English name and finally, the first non-English source.
#'''Development name''' – Any name used during the development of a video game or other Nintendo-licensed media source. This type of name usually comes from unused data, developer interviews or development documents.
#'''Name derived from a file name on an officially hosted website''' – A name from an image file on an official website, such as [[Play Nintendo]], or game promotion websites in general. As file names are not directly shown to users of websites, the names of image files do not need to follow proper naming conventions. This can lead to names with typos or other oddities. Should an alternate name for a subject originate from a file name, it should be mentioned in {{tem|internal names}} or as trivia.
 
Please note that ''regardless of the source'', the '''official North American name''' takes priority, followed by the '''first international English name''' if no North American name is available, and finally the '''first international non-English name''' if no English name is known. For example, if a subject is given a name in-game in the Japanese version only, and not in the English localization of the game, but an English strategy guide names it, that English name is used, rather than the Japanese.
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===''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia''===
While citing the non-English ''[[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]]s'' is acceptable, citing the English version is not. The English version of the book uses old, likely outdated, and created names directly pulled from and/or specifically meant for the wiki. In most cases, we already have a different name sourced, so using the old name while referencing the book would just lead to us referencing ourselves.
 
===''Mario Portal''===
Like with the English ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'', the ''Mario Portal'' website has also been proven to be an illegitimate source for enemy names due to giving multiple enemies outdated or incorrect names. The ''Mario Portal'' has been shown calling enemies either by names that were not for the game they appeared in (e.g. Multiple ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' enemies and some enemies from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'' being inconstantly called generic names), or flat out calling an enemy using the name of an entirely separate species regardless of if they are a part of the same species or not (e.g. [[Monty]] being incorrectly called [[Rocky Wrench]] or [[Prickly Piranha Plant]] being incorrectly called [[Spiny Piranha Plant]]). Due to the amount of errors present on the ''Mario Portal'', any pages using a name from it (unless the name is used in a more creditable source as well) should be moved to a different name due to the ''Mario Portal'' website having too many errors to deem it reliable. If an official name was given from a more creditable source as well as ''Mario Portal'' (such as [[Ant]] and [[Masked Ghoul]]), the ''Mario Portal'' source can be removed with the other source being used as the main source for the name instead. Finally, any species connections stated by ''Mario Portal'' and nowhere else (such as Monty being called Rocky Wrench) should not be used as proof for one species being in the same family as another species due to the source being illegitimate and proven to be unreliable and false.
 
==Conjectural names==
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It is possible to come across a subject which shares the same title as another subject, in which case identifiers must be used to show which one of the same-named subjects is covered in each page. If there is one subject that is clearly more popular than the others, the popular subject will keep the original title while the others use identifiers. For example, the game gets the ''[[Luigi's Mansion]]'' name, whereas the building's article is [[Luigi's Mansion (location)]]. If the subjects are equally likely to be linked to or searched for, both articles are given identifiers while the plain subject title is made into a disambiguation page (marked with {{tem|disambig}}). For example, [[Super Mario]] is a disambiguation page linking to all the other uses of the title, such as [[Super Mario (series)|''Super Mario'' (series)]] and [[Super Mario (form)]]. If there are five or more pages sharing the same name, a disambiguation page must be used, although it may be given a "(disambiguation)" qualifier if one of the articles has the plain title. For example, the article [[Bowser's Castle]] is about Bowser's home, whereas [[Bowser's Castle (disambiguation)]] also links to other uses of the name, such as the [[Bowser's Castle (board)|game board]] and [[Bowser Castle (baseball stadium)|baseball stadium]]. Game series articles always get a series identifier regardless of whether or not the title is shared, such as [[Mario Kart (series)|''Mario Kart'' (series)]]. When disambiguation pages are used, the articles should only link to them in {{tem|about}} when necessary, but if a disambiguation page is not used, the articles can merely link to the other same-named page.
 
Another instance when an identifier should be used is for distinguishing identically named subjects within different franchises. For instance, there is a subject named [[Key]] in both the ''Mario'' franchise and ''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise, but they serve a different purpose and are from a different franchise. In this case, we would create "Key" as a disambiguation article, describe its general purpose, and add a link to [[Key (Mario franchise)|Key (''Mario'' franchise)]] and [[Key (The Legend of Zelda franchise)|Key (''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise)]] respectively. This may also apply within the scope of the main ''Mario'' franchise itself: for example, there can be a disambiguation page for "Rope" that links to [[Rope (Mario franchise)|Rope (''Mario'' franchise)]] and [[Rope (Donkey Kong franchise)|Rope (''Donkey Kong'' franchise)]] for the ''Mario'' and ''Donkey Kong'' franchises, respectively. If there is an identically named subject applying to only the overall ''Mario'' franchise and a related franchise, an identifier should only apply to the latter (e.g. [[Barrel]] covers the subject within the ''Mario'' franchise whereas [[Barrel (The Legend of Zelda franchise)|Barrel (''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise)]] covers its appearance in the ''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise.
 
===Determining the identifier===
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