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:So hopefully you will be able to update these pages faster? Oh also, aren’t you going to get those Tower of Yikk screenshots soon? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 22:06, May 5, 2023 (UTC)
::I can't because DS emu not working, sorry [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 22:48, May 5, 2023 (UTC)
:::Aw, okay. Also, anything I can do to help improve more Monty Mole species pages? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 23:04, May 5, 2023 (UTC)
::::I think you did pretty good thus far. [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 23:37, May 5, 2023 (UTC)
:::::It'd be good as a combination of both. Yeah, I’ve been needing to ready some pages for a while now. [[User:The RPG Gamer|The RPG Gamer]] ([[User talk:The RPG Gamer|talk]]) 04:08, May 6, 2023 (UTC)
::::::Yeah I agree, also mind helping add the Super Mario Power source to the Rocky Wrench and Koopa page to source that Rocky Wrenches are related to Koopas? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 04:30, May 6, 2023 (UTC)
:::::::You agree that the Super Mario Bros. Movie is not canon (due to the many contradictions and lore it breaks, unlike the DiC cartoons and the manga)? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 22:05, May 11, 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for the late reply, yeah sure! Also, I believe that the Super Mario Bros. Movie takes place in a separate universe to the Mario games not only with the contradictions to the lore but some of the personality differences (like for example Bowser is close to being a pure evil in the movie whereas in the games, he wasn't as extreme), the characters looking strikingly different, and more. For this wiki, I am in favor of creating separate pages for the movie incarnations of the characters (like how Mario Wikia has done it as well as the Heroes and Villains Wikis). [[User:The RPG Gamer|The RPG Gamer]] ([[User talk:The RPG Gamer|talk]]) 02:48, May 16, 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with what you said, though I still think the movie incarnation characters can still share the same page. Also, mind helping with that German Super Mario Power guide Rocky Wrench source that said that they were related to Koopas? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 03:03, May 16, 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::Here is the [https://archive.org/details/super-mario-power/page/14/mode/2up link] to the source I was talking about. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 03:38, May 16, 2023 (UTC)
== Misconception continuation ==
Wanna help continue the misconceptions page? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 21:09, May 23, 2023 (UTC)
:You agree that this wiki has not had any substantial edits as of recently (likely due to the mediocre-bad Mario products in recent times)? Also, this video [https://youtu.be/sciGTnUqU28 right here] at the 8:08 mark for some reason says that this random painting is meant to be a stylized picture of Monty Mole. Is this true or just a weird assumption this guy made? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 02:32, May 28, 2023 (UTC)
::That is fair to say, also looking at it now, the painting bears very little resemblance to a Monty Mole, also, sure! I'd be down for that, sorry if I haven't been as active here lately, I've been wrapped with other projects. [[User:The RPG Gamer|The RPG Gamer]] ([[User talk:The RPG Gamer|talk]]) 04:32, May 28, 2023 (UTC)
:::Yeah that is why I questioned it. If anything, it could also be a painting of a dog or something, as Monty Mole doesn’t even make any physical appearance in the movie so it would be weird if that one random painting in the real world was just a picture of a Monty Mole. Anyways, thanks for helping out with the wiki, do you mind also trying to add some extra stuff to the Monty Mole species pages as well? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 04:43, May 28, 2023 (UTC)
== New sorting method ==
Hello! I've sprung back into action here. If it's okay with you, I updated the style guide here to say that ''Mario'' franchise appearances are covered in History section (''Mario'' takes priority because this is first and foremost a ''Mario'' wiki) whilst the others go into their respective sections (''Yoshi'' appearances, ''Wario'' appearances, Crossover appearances, so forth). Check the [[Rex]], [[Goomba]], and [[1-Up Mushroom]] articles as an example. It just has really begun to bug me when people try to call it all ''Mario''.
I also gave [[Mario (franchise)#Related franchises and series|this section]] of the ''Mario'' franchise page a bit of an update, and you'll notice I said that ''Donkey Kong'' is "partnered" as ''Mario Bros.'' for Game & Watch is the real first game with ''Mario'' in the title, but ''Donkey Kong'' arcade game is his first starring role as protagonist. Alongside ''Donkey Kong'', you will also see ''The Legend of Zelda''. I feel incredibly proud of what I typed up, so I'll relay it here for you:
"The [[The Legend of Zelda (franchise)|''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise]] is closely related to the ''Mario'' franchise, although its relation is more subtle and different than with the ''Donkey Kong'' franchise. ''The Legend of Zelda'' began in 1987, with the release of the titular game of the [[The Legend of Zelda|same name]]. The game was developed concurrently alongside ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', and since then, a mainline ''[[Super Mario (series)|Super Mario]]'' platforming game has often been developed concurrently with a ''[[The Legend of Zelda (series)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' game, such as ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' with ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]''. Sometimes, ''Mario'' concepts were originally intended for ''The Legend of Zelda'', such as [[Fire Bar]]s. ''Mario'' enemies such as [[Chain Chomp]]s, [[Bob-omb]]s, and [[Thwomp]]s have commonly appeared throughout the 2D ''The Legend of Zelda'' games. Furthermore, variants of ''Mario'' enemies exclusively appear in the ''The Legend of Zelda'' franchise, such as [[Manhandla]]s, a large [[Piranha Plant]] variant that debuted in the first ''The Legend of Zelda'', comparable to how [[Pouncer]]s, a Thwomp variant in ''[[Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3]]'', have not appeared outside the ''Wario'' games. Similarly, [[Octoomba]]s, a variant of ''The Legend of Zelda''{{'}}s [[Octorok]], have not appeared outside the ''Mario'' franchise. ''The Legend of Zelda'' can be considered one step away from being a ''Mario'' spinoff, and it even had an [[The Legend of Zelda (television)|animated television show]] included as part of ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!]]''."
''Yoshi'' games introduced many Shy Guys, such as [[Fly Guy]]s and [[Lantern Ghost]]s (latter hardly appears outside the ''Yoshi'' games), Pouncers only appear in the first ''Wario Land'', Manhandlas and similar are recurring throughout ''The Legend of Zelda'' but not Mario, Octoombas do not appear in ''Zelda'' games. Literally the same situation between the few. I'm not trying to convince, it's just that I'm just ranting because the similarities between ''Mario'' and ''The Legend of Zelda'' connections are just like ''Mario'' to ''Yoshi'' and ''Wario'' each. The ''Donkey Kong'' series and its continued ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' series also takes elements from ''Mario'' franchise at times.
Hope you like these improvements! [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 18:52, October 23, 2023 (UTC)
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