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::::::::::::::::::::::Thanks for complimenting my work on me removing that cringe badnik misconception. As for some errors that the Mario Monsters page had that I noticed, the Super Mario Sunshine Monty Moles weirdly have their own page called "Mole Cannon" (which isn’t an official name, but whatever). The page also says that the cannons are related to Bob-ombs and Blasters (the Bullet Bill cannons), which is weird since the cannons have nothing to do with Bob-ombs (besides the Monty Mole throwing them), and it is not really confirmed if they are related to Bill Blasters or not. As for the Monty Mole page, I find it weird how Monty Moles are noted to being rodents (even in some official media)m despite moles irl not being rodents. The Super Mario Sunshine section calls the cannon a "tank" (despite it not being a tank), and the page heavily implies that Super Mario 64 DS (along with Yoshi’s Touch & Go) has a similar behavior for Monty Mole as Super Mario World, despite Monty Moles in Super Mario 64 DS attacking the exact same as the original Mario 64 (and not Super Mario World). The Mario Galaxy section is completely false, and the page literally admits that the Undergrunts (which they confuse for Monty Moles) are much more different, both visually and functionally (which basically proves that they aren’t Monty Moles). Not to mention how games like Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Party DS (which are referenced in the cameo appearances) came out the same year as Mario Galaxy, and those games have standard Monty Moles, which further proves that Galaxy just had a different unrelated Mole species. The cameo appearances thing also misses several games (like a good chunk of the Mario Party games and literally every Mario Kart game), not to mention how they list Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (which is generically referred to as Mario & Luigi here) in the cameo appearances, despite that gave featuring a different species of Monty Mole named Presenter (and Monty Moles themselves only appeared in the remake as a replacement for the Presenters, and not the original game). Speaking of the cameo appearances, a lot of those games listed there had pretty notable roles for Monty Mole (like them being playable in Mario Superstar Baseball and Mario Strikers Charged for example). The worst offender is New Super Mario Bros, which not only is a main series title, but the game LITERALLY HAS BOTH A [[Monty Tank|MONTY MOLE BOSS]] AND [[Whack-a-Monty|MINIGAME THAT HAS MONTY MOLES AS THE MAIN FOCUS]], yet New Super Mario Bros. is treated as just a "minor cameo," while Super Mario Galaxy is treated as a more important role (despite the Monty Mole species never appearing in Mario Galaxy period). The Major Burrows page is honestly just repulsive. Not only does it treat Major Burrows as a "huge Monty Mole" (despite that obviously not being true), but it goes as far as to imply that Major Burrows is the leader of the Monty Moles (which is also false, as it was literally disproven by the early Sticker Star beta and the fact Major Burrows never appeared outside of Mario Galaxy (besides the Super Mario-kun adaptation)). For some reason, the Undergrunt Gunner page treats Undergrunt Gunner as a close relative to Major Burrows, despite Undergrunt Gunner clearly just being a variant of Undergrunt. Also the irony with Undergrunt Gunner is that they are clearly called an Undergrunt, yet the Major Burrows and Monty Mole pages insist that the Undergrunts are 100% Monty Moles. The Mega Mole page says that they were outcasted by Monty Moles for their large size, despite that never being shown or even implied in any media Mega Mole appeared in (and in the manga, this is nowhere near the case, as the manga has several moments of both Mega Moles and Monty Moles interacting just fine). What further disproves this is that many Japanese sources state that Mega Moles are the bosses of Monty Moles, which shows that they are in a higher position and not an outcast (not to mention other enlarged Monty Mole species exist like big Monty Moles and Morty Moles). And now, we get to the worst page (from what I seen), the Rocky Wrench one. Where do I even begin? First of all, the page blames Rocky Wrenches for not giving their tools to Bowser and his minions, leaving to a wrench shortage and them being kicked out. This was never really shown or implied in any pieces of media that had Rocky Wrenches in them, and it is very likely that Rocky Wrenches have a lot of wrenches that they store. Also, nobody else in the Koopa Troop uses wrenches besides Rocky Wrenches, so I don’t see why Bowser would get mad at Rocky Wrenches for doing what they do. I also highly doubt Rocky Wrenches were ever kicked out of the Koopa Troop, as really the only reason why they rarely appeared for decades was likely cause airships didn’t make a major return until Super Mario Galaxy (but they wouldn’t make a more traditional return until New Super Mario Bros. Wii), so that is likely why Rocky Wrenches never made a non-remake appearance for a very long time (with the only exception being Mario Kart DS). The page also says that Rocky Wrenches were only forgiven during the events of Mario Galaxy, which is completely untrue as Rocky Wrenches appeared in Mario Kart DS prior and still seem to work for Bowser there Inot to mention how Rocky Wrenches didn’t even appear in Mario Galaxy at all). It also says that Rocky Wrenches were used in grassland areas cause they were Monty Moles, which is dumb since Rocky Wrenches came before Monty Moles (making them relatives and not the exact same), and didn't really fully resemble Monty Moles until their redesign in New Super Mario Bros. Wii (which likely came after when this page was written). Rocky Wrenches were also never shown to even be in any grassland areas (excluding the manga) until Paper Mario: The Origami King, which came way after this was written, so I have no idea where the hell they got Rocky Wrenches being in grassland areas from. The page also says Bowser gave Rocky Wrenches "wrench-making machines," which were never shown or implied to ever exist in any piece of official Mario media. The page also says Rocky Wrenches learned new tactics, but this never was shown in the games until Super Mario 3D Land (which came way after this page was written). Finally, the evolution section is complete garbage, as it treats SMG Monty as the exact same as Rocky Wrench and says that the only difference was the bandana (which they didn’t even say what the right color was, since they said the bandanna was red, when in actuality it was blue). It seems like they only saw like a singular video of SMG Monty and assumed that they were the exact same as Rocky Wrench (both visually and functionally), despite SMG Monty looking not even anywhere close to what Rocky Wrench looks like (with literally no design similarities between the two of them). It is clear as day that SMG Monty is just an entirely different unrelated mole enemy, yet the page makes them out to be the exact same as Rocky Wrench, and tries to treat Super Mario Galaxy as a massive moment for them (like the bad Dr. Wily video), despite the fact that Rocky Wrenches never appeared in Mario Galaxy at all, and the page pretending Mario Kart DS never existed just to get their point. Anyways yeah, we can do more rants on bad Mario Monsters pages. What do you think of what I said? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 00:35, March 6, 2023 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::::::::Oh and also, what about the Super Mario 64 movie and Mario timeline video that ConnertheWaffle made? Also I am genuinely curious on your opinions on the stupid "Super Mario Bros. 3 actually being play" theory that Myamoto for some reason confirmed to be canon (despite it originally not being canon at all in the first place)? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 02:19, March 7, 2023 (UTC)