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::::::I just watched the movie today, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the movie didn't have a single [[Monty Mole]] or [[Rocky Wrench]] in it. They weren't the only enemies to not be in the movie, [[Podoboo]]s didn't appear in the movie either (despite there being heaps of lava in the movie, not a single Podoboo was seen either), aside from [[King Boo]], no [[Boo]]s were seen in the movie, [[Fuzzy|Fuzzies]] didn't appear in the movie, unless I'm missing something I don't think [[Chain Chomp]]s did either. [[Swooper]]s weren't in the movie but rather the [[Bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|Bats]] from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' [[Lakitu]]s, [[Buzzy Beetle]]s, [[Spike Top]]s, [[Wiggler]]s, [[Pokey]]s, [[Thwomp]]s, [[Scuttlebug]]s, [[Whomp]]s, [[Amp]]s, [[Broozer]]s, [[Fishing Boo]]s, [[Urchin]]s, [[Venus Fire Trap]]s, and more weren't in the movie. The enemies that did end up appearing were, [[Goomba]]s, [[Koopa Troopa]]s, [[Paratroopa]]s, [[Bob-omb]]s, [[Spiny|Spinies]], [[Piranha Plant]]s, [[Bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|Bats]], [[Shy Guy]]s, [[Snifit]]s, [[Dry Bones]], [[Bullet Bill]]s, [[Banzai Bill]]s, [[Biddybud]]s, [[Bramball]]s, [[Cheep Cheep]]s, [[Blooper]]s, [[Blooper Nanny|Blooper Nannies]], [[Baby Blooper]]s, a giant [[Maw-Ray]], [[King Bob-omb]], and [[King Boo]]. [[Yoshi]]s didn't really appear much either aside from a couple cameos but other than that, I actually really enjoyed the movie (maybe we will get the Monty Moles in a potential sequel). I agree with that, it's silly how people thought that Presenters were the exact same as Monty Moles, I mean they could've given them a separate page but nope (hell, this was before the remake, in the original, they hardly look like Monty Moles). I honestly don't get how we're the only ones that've seen that Play Nintendo confirmation. It really goes to show how oblivious some people are and that they don't do any research. Like they do the same with many guides where they never source it being completely oblivious of the source's presence. [[User:The RPG Gamer|The RPG Gamer]] ([[User talk:The RPG Gamer|talk]]) 11:15, April 7, 2023 (UTC)

:::::::I know Chain Chomps and Buzzy Beetles did appear in some of the marketing, but they must’ve had either an extremely minor role, or were not in the actual final movie. Yeah I knew the Monty Mole species was sadly not in the movie (like, was there really any cave or mountain area at all), and the fact that all those species couldn’t appear kind of feels lazy (like how can you have lots of lava but no Podoboos). There was only like four species in the entire movie that felt like obscure and interesting picks (Bramball, Biddybud, the Mario Galaxy Bats, and Maw-Ray), the rest just seems like the typical generic enemy affair with nothing interesting besides overusing Koopa Troopas, Goombas, Piranha Plants, and Shy Guys, rather than including a variety of species. I kind of felt like they really only did that just for marketing and laziness (hence why most of the references and species are generic or overused). The Mario movie had a lot of potential to be creative, yet they just chose the generic route (they could have even had obscure long lost enemies like Mega Mole or Blargg return). I am also confused on why King Boo is in the movie, but not any regular Boos (which is dumb cause Boo is a well known species), and from what I heard, King Boo (alongside King Bob-omb) don’t really do anything besides appearing because reference. The bats from Mario Galaxy are also extremely weird to put in the movie, since not only is it a species not even some Mario fans recognize, but it kind of breaks the continuity (cause it is implied that most Super Mario Galaxy enemies are completely different due to exclusively living in space or other far away regions, but the bats appearing instead of Swooper just makes no sense, it would be like if Undergrunts appeared in the movie instead of Monty Mole). Speaking of continuity, from what I saw, I am pretty sure this movie breaks a lot of the pre established continuity the Mario series had (if you want, you can list some examples). Also Yoshi being regulated to minor cameos and a post credits scene is kind of stupid, since Yoshi is literally one of the most recognizable Mario characters. I guess the positive is that this might mean the sequel will be like Super Mario World, which has a lot of potential, instead of just being scattered shot with random areas from the series. As for the Presenter stuff, I still don’t get how people for years thought Presenters were the exact same as Monty Mole (they were only referred to as just moles in the two English guidebooks). Obviously they were a variant of Monty Mole, but they weren’t the exact same (hell, they look way more like Mega Mole than Monty Mole). Also, I didn’t even know about the Play Nintendo thing until I just searched Monty Mole in Play Nintendo and found that massive lore drop lol (and due to most games by the Superstar Saga 3DS remake’s time not getting guidebooks, I think this might be our only confirmation. Hell, I could not even find a Japanese guidebook from what I researched). If you were wondering, the other Play Nintendo stuff on the site didn’t have as much Monty Mole species lore drops outside of that particular one for the Superstar Saga 3DS remake. I still don’t get why the Super Mario Wiki constantly treats unreliable sources like Mario Portal and even sometimes the English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia (the latter they know is unreliable), yet they can’t look at Play Nintendo to find out that the "Presenters" in the 3DS remake of Superstar Saga are just regular Monty Moles that replaced them (similar to the generic enlarged Koopa Troopas replacing Ankoopas in the remake). The Monty Moles in the Superstar Saga remake aren’t even redesigns of Presenter like what the Super Mario Wiki treats them as (unlike Mawful Mole (and their metal variant) in the BIS 3DS remake, since both the original and remake of BIS had both regular Monty Moles (in the form of the Monty Bros.) and Mawful Moles in the exact same game, unlike Superstar Saga, where the original had an entirely new Monty Mole species, and the remake just had generic Monty Moles instead). Considering the Super Mario Wiki, it is very likely that they will just say that the "Presenters" in the 3DS remake being called Monty Mole is just an alternate name for them (like when they thought SMG Monty being incorrectly called a Rocky Wrench by the English Mario Portal was just an alternate name for them). [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 14:26, April 7, 2023 (UTC)