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On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that Bowser kidnaps [[Mario]], [[Luigi]], and [[Wario]] (alongside [[Peach]]) in ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' and steals all the babies in ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. This is however false as [[Bowser]] was not the sole mastermind in either of those games, he was shown working with close allies who were the ones doing the kidnappings.
 
In ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'', [[Mario]], [[Luigi]] and [[Wario]] were actually ambushed by [[Goomboss]], [[King Boo]], and [[Chief Chilly]] as they approached the [[Big Bob-omb]] in [[Bob-omb Battlefield]] (as it was revealed by two [[Toad (species)|Toads]] and a [[Bob-omb Buddy]] that they not only entered the painting but headed for the mountain suggesting that they were ambushed on the way up). Additionally, the bosses themselves admit that they were the ones who imprisoned their respective captors before their battles, meaning Bowser couldn't've done it. Bowser also seems like he had no idea that they were kidnapped, as well, himas he beingwas more concerned about how he kidnapped [[Princess Peach]] and tookstole the [[Power Star]]s.
 
In ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]'', [[Bowser]] didn't kidnap the babies at all (like the Super Mario Wiki claims he was the sole kidnapper) but rather, [[Kamek]] and the [[Toady|Toadies]] were the ones kidnapping the babies as shown in the games opening crawl, additionally, the game's intro states that it is "Kamek's Plan" rather than Bowser's, Bowser's involvement in the scheme wasn't revealed until [[World 4 (Yoshi's Island DS)|World 4]] where he was revealed to be one of the big bad's in on the plan but not the perpetrator of the plot.
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==Cheep-Chomps, Boss Basses, and other large Cheep-Cheeps==
On the Super Mario Wiki, on May 2015, the [[Bubba]], and the ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' variation of the [[Big Bertha]], andwere themerged ''[[Mariowith Kartthe DS]]/[[Yoshi'sBoss Island DSBass]]'' variationpage ofdespite the [[Bossofficial Bass]]Player's wereGuides mergedand withNintendo thePower [[Cheep-Chomp]]establishing (mostly duethem to thebe enemiesseparate sharingspecies similar(with Japanesethe nameslatter (althoughactually thisbeing canthe onlyfemale go[[Big so farBertha]] as itNintendo wouldPower meanhas established that the enemiesBig Berthas coulddwell sharebelow the samewaters nameand butonly areattack athose separatethat speciescome asnear we'veand seen[[Boss severalBass]]es timesare innever Englishseen below deep releases)water). DespiteThe the[[Big factBertha]] thatpage notfrom there only do allcovered the enemies have different appearances, they also have different names. The ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' versioninformation ofdespite thethem [[Bossalso Bass]]appearing remainedin it's'[[Super ownMario page64 (despiteDS]]'' theas other renditions of the Boss Bass being confirmed to be Boss Basses by the games, guides,well and even Nintendo Power). [[Big BerthaBubba]] was alsocompletely merged with [[Boss Bass]] despite herthe Japanesetwo nameclearly being slightly different.
 
On late 2018, [[Bubba]], the ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' variation of the [[Big Bertha]], and the ''[[Mario Kart DS]]/[[Yoshi's Island DS]]'' variation of the [[Boss Bass]] were merged with the [[Cheep-Chomp]] (mostly due to the enemies sharing similar Japanese names (although this can only go so far as it would mean that the enemies could share the same name but are a separate species as we've seen several times in English releases)). Despite the fact that not only do all the enemies have different appearances, they also have different names. The ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' version of the [[Boss Bass]] remained it's own page (despite the other renditions of the Boss Bass being confirmed to be Boss Basses by the games, guides, and even Nintendo Power). [[Big Bertha]] around this time was also merged with Boss Bass despite her Japanese name being slightly different.
Later, [[Boss Bass]], [[Big Bertha]], and [[Big Blurp]] were all merged with the [[Mega Cheep-Cheep]] article (or Big Cheep Cheep as it's called there). This was an even bigger stretch as not only do the Japanese names differ, but don't even look and act the same (Boss Basses attempt to eat their targets while Mega Cheep Cheeps behave like normal Cheep Cheeps only larger). This created even more disorder as both Boss Bass and Big Bertha renditions are merged with two different articles. Not only do the enemies have different names but they also look different so they can't be the same, additionally Nintendo Power, the guides for the games as well as the game's themselves have confirmed the Cheep-Cheeps' true names in each game and not to mention that Mega Cheep Cheeps themselves appear in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' style of ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'', as [[Boss Bass]]es appeared in the initial game, this pretty much debunks the claim that the ''SMB3'' Boss Basses are Mega Cheep Cheeps.
 
Later (on mid-2020), [[Boss Bass]], [[Big Bertha]], and [[Big Blurp]] were all merged with the [[Mega Cheep-Cheep]] article (or Big Cheep Cheep as it's called there). This was an even bigger stretch as not only do the Japanese names for each of them completely differ from the Mega Cheep Cheep's, but don't even look and act the same (Boss Basses attempt to eat their targets while Mega Cheep Cheeps behave like normal Cheep Cheeps only larger). This created even more disorder as both early and newer Boss Bass and Big Bertha renditions are merged with two different articlessubjects. Not only do the enemies have different names but they also look different so they can't be the same, additionally Nintendo Power, the guides for the games as well as the game's themselves have confirmed the Cheep-Cheeps' true names in each game and not to mention that Mega Cheep Cheeps themselves appear in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' style of ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'', as [[Boss Bass]]es appeared in the initial game, this pretty much debunks the claim that the ''SMB3'' Boss Basses are Mega Cheep Cheeps.
 
==Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong==
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On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that [[Dry Bowser]] is merely a skeletal form for [[Bowser]], this, however, is only true for one game and this is his debut ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'' (although Bowser did briefly assume the form in the ending of ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey]])'', (in this game, he is merely referred to as "Bowser Bones" and "the Skeletal version of Bowser" in the Official Guide), in all other games (especially in spin offs such as the ''Mario Kart'' series and ''Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games''), he is shown to be a separate character, even a few mainline games such as ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', and ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]'' have shown [[Dry Bowser]] to appear separately from the regular [[Bowser]], there is no way that this Dry Bowser could be Bowser as in the endings of the respective games, Bowser was shown to be alive and well and never turned into a skeleton. Additionally, the main Dry Bowser appears to breathe blue fire while the "skeletal version of Bowser" breathes red fireballs like his fleshy counterpart. Additionally, Dry Bowser's appearance in ''[[Mario Party: Island Tour]]'' confirmed the two to be separate with Bowser referring to Dry Bowser as a "close family friend".
 
Also, as of 2017, the Super Mario Wiki even states Dry Bowser to be apart of the regular (organic) [[Koopa (species)|Koopa]] species while stating that he is not a [[Dry Bones]], despite the fact that he has been confirmed to be a Dry Bones and that Dry Bones are technically skeletons of [[Koopa Troopa]]s which thereby makes him a Dry Bones and not a regular Koopa. Additionally, the official guide for ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' has expanded on Dry Bowser's background not only confirming him to be separate but also referring to him as the King of the Dry Bones rather than merely being the King of the Koopas.<ref> Mario Kart Wii Official Guide pg. 28 - After a little dip in lava, Dry Bowser, king of the Dry Bones returns invincible. Fortunately though, he's driving the same karts and bikes as everyone else!</ref>
 
==English Mario Portal: reliable or unreliable?==
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On mid-2022, the English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' was released on Nintendo's Japanese website displaying the "English names" and descriptions for several enemies from various games such as ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'', and more.
 
However, the names displayed were unofficialillegitimate and illegitimatefalse, as the site has given many enemies outdated or outright false names (such as naming [[Swoopin' Stu]] as "Gooble" (which was used on the Super Mario Wiki from 2015-2019 due to a hasty rename)), the site has been shown calling enemies either by names that were not for the game they appeared in (such as naming all of the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' enemies by their names from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]''), enemies inconstantly being calledgiven generic names (such as naming the [[Starbag]]s as "Tracks"), or flat out calling an enemy using the name of an entirely separate species regardless of if they are a part of the same species or not. (Asuch couple examples of this include theas [[Monty]] being incorrectly called [[Rocky Wrench]] or [[Prickly Piranha Plant]] being incorrectly called [[Spiny Piranha Plant]]).
 
It was later discovered that about 89% of the names were taken from the Super Mario Wiki (both old versions and new versions), 4% were taken from MarioWiki (on Fandom/Wikia), and the other 7% were names that are either outright false or names that were lost in translation, a similar thing that happened with the English ''[[Super Mario Encyclopedia]]'' in late 2018.
 
Despite being proven to be an illegitimate source with multiple errors and pieces of misinformation, the Super Mario Wiki incorrectly renamed some pages for certain enemies based on their incorrect ''Mario Portal'' names (or sourced the ''Mario Portal''it as an alternate name) sometime around mid-[[2022]] (such as [[Swoopin' Stu]] being incorrectly renamed into "Gooble" as well as plenty of enemies from the ''[[Super Mario Land]]'' games having their incorrect ''Mario Portal'' names being prioritized).
 
==Enlarged Goomba merges==
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The Super Mario Wiki then used the "Fire Chain" name in every game a Ring of Fire appeared in, even ''[[Super Mario Run]]'', where they were referred to as "Rings of Fire" in-game despite it merely being an alternate name for the [[Firebar]]s and never used for the Rings of Fire.
 
==Fish Bones and Bonefins being the same==
On the Super Mario Wiki (up until late 2017), the [[Bonefin]]s from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' were treated the same as the [[Fishbone]]s, a recurring skeletal fish enemy that debuted in ''[[Super Mario World]]''. This however is false as the two enemies are drastically different appearance-wise with Fishbones appearing to be a mere skeletal [[Cheep Cheep]] while Bonefins appear to be robotic fish skeletons lead by [[Kingfin]] that can explode on impact (something that Fishbones don't do), at this time, the Super Mario Wiki even claimed that [[Kingfin]] was the leader of the [[Fishbone]]s which is false as he is actually the leader of the Bonefins. Sources such as Nintendo Power have also established that Bonefins are different to Fishbones referring to them as "Bonefins" rather than "Fishbones".
 
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==Grubba beingand aTubba Blubba being SpikeSpikes==
On the Super Mario Wiki (as of 2017), it is stated that both [[Tubba Blubba]] and [[Grubba]] (from ''[[Paper Mario]]'' and ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'' respectively) is aare [[Spike]]s (a turtle-like creature that tosses [[Spiked Ball]]s which first appeared in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]''). This however, is false as Grubbathey both sharesshare little similarities to a Spike, Grubba is most likely a [[Clubba]] (a larger sub-species of [[Spike]]) given his appearance resembling a Clubba more, not to mention that regular [[Spike]]s didn't appear much in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series at this point. His name theming also seems to indicate that he is actually a Clubba (as the two names sound similar). Tubba Blubba on the other hand is most definitely a Clubba given his appearance resembling a Clubba more than a Spike as well as his name and the fact that [[Clubba]]s are seen living in his Castle.
 
==Kamek's name being Magikoopa in the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games==
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Typically, Mario isn't able to go after another segment without having first returned the proceeding one, for example, trying to get the second [[Comet Piece]] in [[Strike Lake]] whilst still with the third Wiggler Segment will cause the Segment to get in the way of the Bowling Ball knocking it off course.
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==Little Mousers and Scaredy Rats being the same==
Back when ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' was first released, fans mistook the [[Scaredy Rat]]s for the [[Little Mouser]]s from earlier ''[[Mario (franchise)|Mario]]'' games due to both being a species of mice. Sources such as Nintendo Power have established the two to be separate, not to mention their behaviors are different, Little Mousers act as typical hopping thieves while Scaredy Rats travel in groups and get scared as they're attacked, additionally, Scaredy Rats don't typically steal items (except in ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' which wasn't released during this time). The Super Mario Wiki also initially considered the two species to be the same before the Scaredy Rats got their own page in early 2012.
 
==Mario punching Yoshi in ''Super Mario World''==
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==Moneybags and Coin Coffers being the same==
Back when ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'' was first released, fans thought that [[Coin Coffer]]s were the same as the [[Moneybag]]s which debuted in ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' due to them possessing similar traits and behaviors despite their drastically different appearances and being referred to as a different species altogether by Prima Games and Nintendo Power respectively.
 
==Monty Mole's name being Gopher in ''Super Mario Kart''==
On the Super Mario Wiki, [[Monty Mole]]s are called "Gophers" on all sections relating to their appearances in ''[[Super Mario Kart]]''. "Gopher" is also treated as the sole name for them in this game. This however, is false as only the instruction booklet (and a couple of magazines) called the Monty Moles in ''Super Mario Kart'' as "Gophers." Most other sources like ''[[Nintendo Power]]'' and the ''[[Playing with Power]]'' book by [[Prima Games]] in [[2017]] used the Monty Mole's traditional name when discussing ''Super Mario Kart'', as well as the internal files for the game listing them under their normal name.
 
==Monty Mole Patches looking exactly like regular Monty Moles from ''Super Mario World''==
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==Morty Moles and Mega Moles being the same==
Back when ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'' first released, fans mistakenmistakenly assumed that the [[Morty Mole]]s who appear in that game aswere actually [[Mega Mole]]s due to the both of them being enlarged [[Monty Mole]]s. However, Morty Moles have a different way of being defeated and also have extremely different designs to that of Mega Mole. andAdditionally, havethe completelyboth differentof designsthem andhave different names in most languages. However, despite this, Morty Moles do seem to have been based on Mega Moles during development, as their filename is the Japanese name for Mega Mole, being "Indy."
 
==Mushroom Kingdom in ''New Super Mario Bros. U''==
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==Peach's Castle in Peach Gardens==
[[Image:Peach's Castle Misconception.png|thumb|right|Proof that the Mansion in Peach Gardens isn't Peach's Castle, the Castle is shown in Mario Circuit and looks nothing like the mansion not to mention the setting around the mansion being different.]]
Some people claim that the large Peach Mansion in [[Peach Gardens]] is actually [[Peach's Castle]] ([[Peach]]'s main residence which debuted in ''[[Super Mario 64]]''). This is however false as the mansion shares no design similarities to Peach's Castle (such as being longer, only being one storeystory, the moat not being present, and overall having the design of a mansion). Additionally, the environment around the mansion doesn't look anything like how Peach's Castle does, Peach's actual Castle was shown to appear in [[Mario Circuit (Mario Kart DS)|Mario Circuit]] and it looked nothing like the Mansion in Peach Gardens.
 
No official sources have made any indication that this is Peach's Castle and the official Prima Games Guide for ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' has referred to it as Peach's Mansion pretty much confirming that this is not Peach's Castle.
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==Petey Piranha's sludge balls being Glorpedos==
On the Super Mario Wiki, the [[Glorpedo]]s from [[Noki Bay]] in ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' are treated the same as the sludge balls which [[Petey Piranha]] barfs during his second fight in [[Bianco Hills]] and his fight in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]''. This however is false, as the sludge balls and Glorpedos have no design similarities and function completely differently. Additionally, the Prima guide refers to the balls of goop that Petey barfs as "sludge balls" while giving the correct name for Glorpedo. The Prima Guide alongside other guidebooks also claim that Glorpedos only appear in Noki Bay and not in Bianco Hills. The Prima Guide has also stated that the Glorpedos were created by the [[Monty Mole]] to use for his [[Cannon (Super Mario Sunshine)|cannon]].<ref>''"Bouncing down the green cliffs of Noki Bay are Monty Mole's cannon creations, which knock you down and hit for a damage point. In groups of three, these bounce down the cliff and dissolve in the water below. Ignore or avoid them."'' - Hodgson, David S J, Bryan Stratton, and Stephen Stratton. ''Super Mario Sunshine'' Prima's Official Strategy Guide. Page 18.</ref>
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Despite all the evidence, some people back then still said Rocky Wrenches were unrelated to Monty Moles, yet ironically said [[Undergrunt]]s were Monty Mole species despite the Undergrunts having no reliable official confirmation on being a part of the Monty Mole species, and them also having completely different designs and attack patterns as well that barely resemble anything the Monty Mole species has done.
 
==Spikes and Spike Traps being the same==
On the Super Mario Wiki, the [[Spike Trap]] obstacles from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' are treated the same as the typical [[Spike (obstacle)|Spike]] hazards found in many mainstream ''[[Mario (franchise)|Mario]]'' games with "Spike Trap" being used as the standard name for both of them. This however, is false as the Spike Traps share little design resemblances to the basic Spikes, the regular Spikes appear as singular Spikes while Spike Traps are orbs that are composed of Spikes around them, additionally, Spike Traps are often seen floating something that regular Spikes aren't ever seen doing. Additionally, the "Spike Trap" name has only been used for the ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' obstacle and has never been used for the regular Spikes found in most other games.
 
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==Vibe and Colored Enemies in ''Super Princess Peach''==
[[Image:SPP Collage.png|thumb|right|A collage showing various screenshots regarding theevery wholepoint of the thingmisconception from top left to bottom right, Picture A: Bowser and his goons are shown to be affected by the Vibe Scepter but then they're back to normal in the next screenshot (Picture B) showing that it's effects are temporary, next, on Picture C, it's shown that Peach also has her own Vibes but she wasn't on the Island when the Vibe Scepter was used by the Goomba, the next image, Picture D, shows a [[Mad Green Koopa]] (one of the vibe/colored enemies of the game) who looks different from an average Koopa Troopa (unlike those affected by the Scepter who look the same whilst infused) additionally, the vibe enemies have some extra abilities and are fully conscious of what they're doing meanwhile the Vibe Scepter sends those affected crazy (as seen in Picture A) and if it was the Vibe Scepter how come it only affected some of the enemies rather than every enemy (because the Vibe Scepter is shown to affected everyone within it's radius), Picture E shows that Vibe Island holds great power suggesting that the island is magical (hence it's name) and those that are on it are granted with Vibe Power (like Peach who can control her vibes) and the enemies who appear to naturally be like that, Picture F shows the Glossary description for the [[Sad Goomba]] which makes no indication of it's affected status, many more glossary descriptions treat them as separate sub-species rather than regular enemies affected by the scepter.]]
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that all the enemies in ''[[Super Princess Peach]]'' that appear to be vibe infused or have different colors (such as the [[Red Paragoomba]]) are under the effects of the [[Vibe Scepter]] which was used at the beginning of the game by an affected Goomba. This however has been proven false as the effects of the Vibe Scepter were only shown to affect the room of Bowser's Villa rather than the whole island, additionally, the effects were shown to be temporary as those that were affected (such as [[Bowser]] and the [[Army Hammer Bro.]]) were shown to be back to normal later on, additionally, those that are affected by the Vibe Scepter look about the same whereas the vibe enemies look rather different to their species origin, especially in the Glossary where they're treated as a separate species rather than the same enemy. More likely the case is the enemies are naturally like that from the magic of Vibe Island (as the game's opening did state that the Island "holds great power") especially with Peach who can control her Vibes but she obviously wasn't affected as she wasn't on the Island when the Vibe Scepter was struck on Bowser's Villa. Additionally, it is shown that everyone within the radius of the Scepter was affected in both Peach's Castle and Bowser's Villa however there are several enemies that appear normal as well. It also has never officially been stated if the enemies are affected by the Scepter or not.
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