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==Big Monty Mole and Mega Mole being the same==
[[Image:Big Monty Mole VS Mega Mole.png|thumb|left|This image shows the clear difference between a big Monty Mole and a Mega Mole, the formerlatter is from ''Super Mario World'', while the latterformer is from the ''Super Mario World'' style of ''Super Mario Maker''.]]
Shortly after the release of ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'', the Super Mario Wiki treated the [[big Monty Mole]]s in the game as [[Mega Mole]]s and put them in the same page as them up until sometime in [[2019]], approximately when ''[[Yoshi's Crafted World]]'' released. This misconception was also briefly seen in the Wikia/Fandom Mario Wiki as well, when both big Monty Moles and [[Mega Monty Mole]] were merged into the Mega Mole page and were referred to as such as well. However, big Monty Mole and Mega Monty Mole would later be split into two separate pages.
 
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==Bowser's antagonistic roles in ''Super Mario 64 DS'' and ''Yoshi's Island DS''==
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that Bowser kidnaps [[Mario]], [[Luigi]], and [[Wario]] (alongside [[Peach]]) in ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' and steals all the babies in ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. This is however false as [[Bowser]] was not the sole mastermind in either of those games, he was shown working with close allies who were the ones doing the kidnappings.
 
In ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'', [[Mario]], [[Luigi]] and [[Wario]] were actually ambushed by [[Goomboss]], [[King Boo]], and [[Chief Chilly]] as they approached the [[Big Bob-omb]] in [[Bob-omb Battlefield]] (as it was revealed by two [[Toad (species)|Toads]] and a [[Bob-omb Buddy]] that they not only entered the painting but headed for the mountain suggesting that they were ambushed on the way up). Additionally, the bosses themselves admit that they were the ones who imprisoned their respective captors before their battles, meaning Bowser couldn't've done it. Bowser also seems like he had no idea that they were kidnapped as well, as he was more concerned about how he kidnapped [[Princess Peach]] and stole the [[Power Star]]s.
 
In ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]'', [[Bowser]] didn't kidnap the babies at all (like the Super Mario Wiki claims he was the sole kidnapper) but rather, [[Kamek]] and the [[Toady|Toadies]] were the ones kidnapping the babies as shown in the games opening crawl, additionally, the game's intro states that it is "Kamek's Plan" rather than Bowser's, Bowser's involvement in the scheme wasn't revealed until [[World 4 (Yoshi's Island DS)|World 4]] where he was revealed to be one of the big bad's in on the plan but not the perpetrator of the plot.
 
==Bowser recapturing the Sprixie Princesses in World Castle==
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that after [[Bowser's Lava Lake Keep]] is beaten, [[Bowser]] recaptures all seven Sprixie Princesses again even if the Warps in Worlds 1 and 4 were used (meaning even if you didn't save the Sprixies in those two worlds by skipping them via the Warp Zones in [[Koopa Troopa Cave]] and [[Piranha Creeper Creek]] respectively, they will still be present in the World Castle and World Bowser cutscenes and will still be recaptured along with the others). This however, is false as if either the Green Sprixie, the Orange Sprixie or both were skipped over in either world, they will not be seen in World Castle and they won't be present when Bowser recaptures the other five Sprixies (due to still being imprisoned in their respective Castles), additionally any Sprixies that weren't saved also won't be seen in any of the cutscenes seen in World Bowser or the end credits.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfnQj4cDTx4</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj7MFCM0bNY</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92LmduvR7PM</ref>
 
==Cheep-Chomps, Boss Basses, and other large Cheep-Cheeps==
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On late 2018, [[Bubba]], the ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' variation of the [[Big Bertha]], and the ''[[Mario Kart DS]]/[[Yoshi's Island DS]]'' variation of the [[Boss Bass]] were merged with the [[Cheep-Chomp]] (mostly due to the enemies sharing similar Japanese names (although this can only go so far as it would mean that the enemies could share the same name but are a separate species as we've seen several times in English releases)). Despite the fact that not only do all the enemies have different appearances, they also have different names. The ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' version of the [[Boss Bass]] remained it's own page (despite the other renditions of the Boss Bass being confirmed to be Boss Basses by the games, guides, and even Nintendo Power). [[Big Bertha]] around this time was also merged with Boss Bass despite her Japanese name being slightly different.
 
Later (on mid-2020), [[Boss Bass]], [[Big Bertha]], and [[Big Blurp]] were all merged with the [[Mega Cheep-Cheep]] article (or Big Cheep Cheep as it's called there). This was an even bigger stretch as not only do the Japanese names for each of them completely differ from the Mega Cheep Cheep's, but don't even look and act the same (Boss Basses attempt to eat their targets while Mega Cheep Cheeps behave like normal Cheep Cheeps only larger). This created even more disorder as both early and newer Boss Bass and Big Bertha renditions are merged with two different articlessubjects. Not only do the enemies have different names but they also look different so they can't be the same, not to mention thatadditionally Nintendo Power, the guides for the games as well as the game's themselves have confirmed the Cheep-Cheeps' true names in each game and not to mention that Mega Cheep Cheeps themselves appear in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' style of ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'', as [[Boss Bass]]es appeared in the initial game, this pretty much debunks the claim that the ''SMB3'' Boss Basses are Mega Cheep Cheeps.
 
==Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong==
Later, [[Boss Bass]], [[Big Bertha]], and [[Big Blurp]] were all merged with the [[Mega Cheep-Cheep]] article (or Big Cheep Cheep as it's called there). This was an even bigger stretch as not only do the Japanese names differ, but don't even look and act the same (Boss Basses attempt to eat their targets while Mega Cheep Cheeps behave like normal Cheep Cheeps only larger). This created even more disorder as both Boss Bass and Big Bertha renditions are merged with two different articles. Not only do the enemies have different names but they also look different so they can't be the same, not to mention that Nintendo Power, the guides for the games as well as the game's themselves have confirmed the Cheep-Cheeps' true names in each game.
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that [[Donkey Kong]] and [[Diddy Kong]] are not related and are merely just friends and nothing more (omitting any mention of them being uncle and nephew). This however, is false as the instruction booklet for ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' and ''[[Donkey Kong Country Returns]]'', as well as [[Nitendo Power]], several [[Prima]] guides, and more have confirmed that [[DK]] and [[Diddy]] are uncle and nephew, prior to 2014, the Super Mario Wiki originally stated that they were uncle and nephew but they have since removed any mention of it. DK and Diddy have only officially been stated to be Uncle and Nephew and no official sources have said that the two are not related and no indications of any retcons.
 
==Dry Bowser==
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that [[Dry Bowser]] is merely a skeletal form for [[Bowser]], this, however, is only true for one game and this is his debut ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'' (although Bowser did briefly assume the form in the ending of ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey]])'', (in this game, he is merely referred to as "Bowser Bones" and "the Skeletal version of Bowser" in the Official Guide), in all other games (especially in spin offs such as the ''Mario Kart'' series and ''Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games''), he is shown to be a separate character, even a few mainline games such as ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', and ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]'' have shown [[Dry Bowser]] to appear separately from the regular [[Bowser]], there is no way that this Dry Bowser could be Bowser as in the endings of the respective games, Bowser was shown to be alive and well and never turned into a skeleton. Additionally, the main Dry Bowser appears to breathe blue fire while the "skeletal version of Bowser" breathes red fireballs like his fleshy counterpart. Additionally, Dry Bowser's appearance in ''[[Mario Party: Island Tour]]'' confirmed the two to be separate with Bowser referring to Dry Bowser as a "close family friend".
 
Also, as of 2017, the Super Mario Wiki even states Dry Bowser to be apart of the regular (organic) [[Koopa (species)|Koopa]] species while stating that he is not a [[Dry Bones]], despite the fact that he has been confirmed to be a Dry Bones and that Dry Bones are technically skeletons of [[Koopa Troopa]]s which thereby makes him a Dry Bones and not a regular Koopa. Additionally, the official guide for ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' has expanded on Dry Bowser's background not only confirming him to be separate but also referring to him as the King of the Dry Bones rather than merely being the King of the Koopas.<ref> Mario Kart Wii Official Guide pg. 28 - After a little dip in lava, Dry Bowser, king of the Dry Bones returns invincible. Fortunately though, he's driving the same karts and bikes as everyone else!</ref>
 
==English Mario Portal: reliable or unreliable?==
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On mid-2022, the English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' was released on Nintendo's Japanese website displaying the "English names" and descriptions for several enemies from various games such as ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'', and more.
 
However, the names displayed were unofficialillegitimate and illegitimatefalse, as the site has given many enemies outdated or outright false names (such as naming [[Swoopin' Stu]] as "Gooble" (which was used on the Super Mario Wiki from 2015-2019 due to a hasty rename)), the site has been shown calling enemies either by names that were not for the game they appeared in (such as naming all of the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' enemies by their names from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]''), enemies inconstantly being calledgiven generic names (such as naming the [[Starbag]]s as "Tracks"), or flat out calling an enemy using the name of an entirely separate species regardless of if they are a part of the same species or not. (Asuch couple examples of this include theas [[Monty]] being incorrectly called [[Rocky Wrench]] or [[Prickly Piranha Plant]] being incorrectly called [[Spiny Piranha Plant]]).
 
It was later discovered that about 89% of the names were taken from the Super Mario Wiki (both old versions and new versions), 4% were taken from MarioWiki (on Fandom/Wikia), and the other 7% were names that are either outright false or names that were lost in translation, a similar thing that happened with the English ''[[Super Mario Encyclopedia]]'' in late 2018.
 
Despite being proven to be an illegitimate source with multiple errors and pieces of misinformation, the Super Mario Wiki incorrectly renamed some pages for certain enemies based on their incorrect ''Mario Portal'' names (or sourced the ''Mario Portal''it as an alternate name) sometime around mid-[[2022]] (such as [[Swoopin' Stu]] being incorrectly renamed into "Gooble" as well as plenty of enemies from the ''[[Super Mario Land]]'' games having their incorrect ''Mario Portal'' names being prioritized).
 
==Enlarged Goomba merges==
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==Enlarged Monty Mole merges==
[[Image:Mega Monty Mole Bio.png|thumb|right|The Mega Monty Mole's bio in ''[[Mario Party: Star Rush]]'' which shows that they're a normal Monty MolesMole that havehas been enlarged by Kamek.]]
In the Super Mario Wiki, most of the enlarged [[Monty Mole]]s (mainly [[big Monty Mole]], [[Mega Monty Mole]], and [[Super Choropū]]) all share the same page and are treated like they are all the same type of enlarged Monty Mole, with Mega Monty Mole being used as the standard name. Prior to this, big Monty Mole was also merged with [[Mega Mole]] (a separate enlarged Monty Mole variant) before they got their own page on the Super Mario Wiki.
 
However, big Monty Moles and Mega Monty Mole are completely separate, as they both have different names in other languages (besides their Chinese names),. with bigBig Monty Moles seeminglyalso beingseem to be a natural species (as seen in ''[[Yoshi's Crafted World]]''), while Mega Monty Mole is confirmed in ''[[Mario Party: Star Rush]]'' to beingbe just a standard Monty Mole who was enlarged by [[Kamek]]. SuperAdditionally, Choropūthe alsoname seemsMega toMonty beMole anhas individualnever bigbeen Montyused Moleoutside (likeof the ''[[Choropūko]])Mario ratherParty than(series)|Mario beingParty]]'' aseries, genericand bigwas Montynever Mole duegiven to theirany differentother name. Bigenlarged Monty MoleMoles was also merged with Mega Mole before getting their own page on(despite the Super Mario Wiki implying otherwise).
 
The Super Mario Wiki also treats Super Choropū as just a different name for the big Monty Mole (incorrectly called Mega Monty Mole on the wiki) from volume 1 of ''[[Super Mario-kun]]''. However, Super Choropū seems to be an individual big Monty Mole (like with [[Choropūko]] from volume 23) rather than being a generic big Monty Mole. This is due to their unique name, as well as no other enlarged Monty Moles besides Super Choropū appearing in the chapter.
The enlarged Monty Mole in the second ''[[Mario Kart 64]]'' volume in ''[[4koma Manga Kingdom]]'' and the regular Monty Moles in Hole 7 of [[Wiggler Park]] from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'' are also labeled as Mega Monty Moles on the Super Mario Wiki, which is likely false as the name Mega Monty Mole was only used for the ''[[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]]'' boss and never used for standard enlarged Monty Moles. However, it is unknown if the enlarged Monty Mole in the second ''Mario Kart 64'' volume in ''4koma Manga Kingdom'' is meant to be a big Monty Mole, as they have a completely different design and appear larger. As for the Monty Moles in Hole 7 of Wiggler Park from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'', it is likely that those Monty Moles are just normal sized Monty Moles that appear larger due to the player being smaller in Wiggler Park.
 
The enlarged Monty Mole in the second ''[[Mario Kart 64]]'' volume in ''[[4koma Manga Kingdom]]'' and the regular Monty Moles in Hole 7 of [[Wiggler Park]] from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'' are also labeled as Mega Monty Moles on the Super Mario Wiki, (which is likely false assince the name Mega Monty Mole was only used for the ''[[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]]'' boss and never used for any standard enlarged Monty Moles). However, it is unknown if the enlarged Monty Mole in the second ''Mario Kart 64'' volume in ''4koma Manga Kingdom'' is meant to be a big Monty Mole, as they have a completely different design and appear larger and could likely be an unnamed enlarged Monty Mole variant. As for the Monty Moles in Hole 7 of Wiggler Park from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'', it is likely that those Monty Moles are just normal sized Monty Moles that appear larger due to the player being smaller in Wiggler Park.
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==Fire Chains==
On the Super Mario Wiki, the spinning fireball rings are constantly referred to as "Fire Chains" as noted in the ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]]'' Prima Guide, however, on every instance, the guide was actually referring to the [[Fire Bar]]s (with "Fire Chain" being another name for the Fire Bar used in the guide<ref>''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' Prima Guide pg. 137, '''Fire Chains''': A returning obstacle from [[Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart 8)|Bowser's Castle]], the fire chains make the races through [[Wario Stadium (Mario Kart DS)|Wario Stadium]] more exciting for the crowd... at the cost of being more dangerous to the racers themselves.</ref>), the guide never used the "Fire Chain" name for the Fireball Rings (referring to them as "Fireball Rings"<ref>''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' Prima Guide pg. 138, These two large jumps have fireball rings just behind them. The jumps themselves are offset slightly, making it tough to hit both dash panels while keeping up your speed and avoiding the fire rings. You can really ruin a racer's day with a well-timed item attack here!</ref> in the guide).
 
The Super Mario Wiki then used the "Fire Chain" name in every game a Ring of Fire appeared in, even ''[[Super Mario Run]]'', where they were referred to as "Rings of Fire" in-game despite it merely being an alternate name for the [[Firebar]]s and never used for the Rings of Fire.
 
==Fish Bones and Bonefins being the same==
On the Super Mario Wiki (up until late 2017), the [[Bonefin]]s from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' were treated the same as the [[Fishbone]]s, a recurring skeletal fish enemy that debuted in ''[[Super Mario World]]''. This however is false as the two enemies are drastically different appearance-wise with Fishbones appearing to be a mere skeletal [[Cheep Cheep]] while Bonefins appear to be robotic fish skeletons lead by [[Kingfin]] that can explode on impact (something that Fishbones don't do), at this time, the Super Mario Wiki even claimed that [[Kingfin]] was the leader of the [[Fishbone]]s which is false as he is actually the leader of the Bonefins. Sources such as Nintendo Power have also established that Bonefins are different to Fishbones referring to them as "Bonefins" rather than "Fishbones".
 
==Gooble Name==
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This caused widespread confusion and debate in the community as to what the enemy’s actual name is however on March 2019, the page's name was renamed back to "Swoopin' Stu" and it remained this way until August 2022 where it was renamed back to "Gooble" with the unfurling of the English Mario Portal a month prior however it has been established that the English Mario Portal is not a legitimate or reliable source and therefore none of the names on there should be taken as official. External sources such as Nintendo Power, Prima Games, and several others have all used "Swoopin' Stu" (and none have used "Gooble") as the name which pretty much confirms that Swoopin' Stu is the correct name and "Gooble" is merely another random name seen on the scoreboard of ''[[Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour]]''.
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==Grubba and Tubba Blubba being Spikes==
On the Super Mario Wiki (as of 2017), it is stated that both [[Tubba Blubba]] and [[Grubba]] (from ''[[Paper Mario]]'' and ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'' respectively) are [[Spike]]s (a turtle-like creature that tosses [[Spiked Ball]]s which first appeared in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]''). This however, is false as they both share little similarities to a Spike, Grubba is most likely a [[Clubba]] (a larger sub-species of [[Spike]]) given his appearance resembling a Clubba more, not to mention that regular [[Spike]]s didn't appear much in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series at this point. His name theming also seems to indicate that he is actually a Clubba (as the two names sound similar). Tubba Blubba on the other hand is most definitely a Clubba given his appearance resembling a Clubba more than a Spike as well as his name and the fact that [[Clubba]]s are seen living in his Castle.
 
==Kamek's name being Magikoopa in the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games==
On the Super Mario Wiki (as of 2019), [[Kamek]] is referred to as [[Magikoopa]] (his species name) on all sections relating to his roles the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. (series)|New Super Mario Bros.]]'' series due to being referred to as "Magikoopa" in the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'' Prima Guide. However said guide has been known for using conjectural, dubious, and generic names for several enemies and the "Magikoopa" naming seems to fall under this category, the Super Mario Wiki treats Magikoopa as his name in the entire ''NSMB'' series due to the guide's mistake without considering the possibility that it may just be an error (prior to 2019 however, they did acknowledge the name as an error before proceeding to treat the guide's erroneous naming as his name in those games). Other sources such as Nintendo Power as well as the game's internal files have named him as Kamek which confirms that Kamek is his actual name even in these games.
 
The illegitimate English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' has referred to Kamek as "Magikoopa" in the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'' section of the site. However, this source has been proven to be unreliable, as it has given many enemies either incorrect names, or the name of a completely different species. Examples of the ''Mario Portal'' getting names wrong include incorrectly calling [[Snufit]]s as [[Snifit]]s, and calling the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' [[Monty]]s as [[Rocky Wrench]]es (despite Montys and Rocky Wrenches never even being confirmed to be related to each other).
 
==Kersti's "Unused" Dialogue==
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Typically, Mario isn't able to go after another segment without having first returned the proceeding one, for example, trying to get the second [[Comet Piece]] in [[Strike Lake]] whilst still with the third Wiggler Segment will cause the Segment to get in the way of the Bowling Ball knocking it off course.
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==Little Mousers and Scaredy Rats being the same==
Back when ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' was first released, fans mistook the [[Scaredy Rat]]s for the [[Little Mouser]]s from earlier ''[[Mario (franchise)|Mario]]'' games due to both being a species of mice. Sources such as Nintendo Power have established the two to be separate, not to mention their behaviors are different, Little Mousers act as typical hopping thieves while Scaredy Rats travel in groups and get scared as they're attacked, additionally, Scaredy Rats don't typically steal items (except in ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' which wasn't released during this time). The Super Mario Wiki also initially considered the two species to be the same before the Scaredy Rats got their own page in early 2012.
 
==Mario punching Yoshi in ''Super Mario World''==
Some fans believe that [[Mario]]/[[Luigi]] (depending on who is playing) punches [[Yoshi]] to get him to stick out his tongue in ''[[Super Mario World]]''. This however is false as upon closer inspection, it is shown that [[Mario]]/[[Luigi]] is actually pointing. The graphics make it look like he's clenching his fist but upon closer inspection, a finger is visible. This is even more clear in ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' and onwards, an official artwork of the game also shows that Mario is actually pointing and not punching as some people believe.
 
Some people also believe the myth after an article was published in September 2017 showing that Nintendo stated that Mario was originally punching Yoshi in ''Super Mario World''. Many fans believed that this was Nintendo confirming that Mario was actually punching Yoshi however the article actually states that that was actually a [[beta]] concept where they were originally going to have [[Mario]] punch [[Yoshi]] but it was changed in development to make Mario less mean so as a result, Nintendo actually confirmed the opposite. This misconception was most likely stemmed from people not reading beyond the article's title.
 
==Masato Mizuta voicing Monty Mole==
Some people and sources believed that [[Masato Mizuta]] is the voice actor for [[Monty Mole]].<ref>[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3002604/ IMDb incorrectly saying that Masato Mizuta voices Monty Mole]</ref> However, this is incorrect as technically [[Charles Martinet]] is the current voice actor for Monty Mole, due to Monty Mole's sounds being proven to just be heavily edited and distorted [[Mario]] voice clips taken from ''[[Super Mario 64]]''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e4PUW0CQag</ref>
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==Moneybags and Coin Coffers being the same==
Back when ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'' was first released, fans thought that [[Coin Coffer]]s were the same as the [[Moneybag]]s which debuted in ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' due to them possessing similar traits and behaviors despite their drastically different appearances and being referred to as a different species altogether by Prima Games and Nintendo Power respectively.
 
==Monty Mole's name being Gopher in ''Super Mario Kart''==
On the Super Mario Wiki, [[Monty Mole]]s are called "Gophers" on all sections relating to their appearances in ''[[Super Mario Kart]]''. "Gopher" is also treated as the sole name for them in this game. This however, is false as only the instruction booklet (and a couple of magazines) called the Monty Moles in ''Super Mario Kart'' as "Gophers." Most other sources like ''[[Nintendo Power]]'' and the ''[[Playing with Power]]'' book by [[Prima Games]] in [[2017]] used the Monty Mole's traditional name when discussing ''Super Mario Kart'', as well as the internal files for the game listing them under their normal name.
 
==Monty Mole Patches looking exactly like regular Monty Moles from ''Super Mario World''==
Up until late [[2021]], the Super Mario Wiki stated that the [[Monty Mole Patch]]es from ''[[Yoshi's Woolly World]]'' looked the exact same (or at least extremely similar) to the sprite of [[Monty Mole]] bursting out of the ground from ''[[Super Mario World]]''. However, this is untrue, as even though the Monty Mole Patch does share a similar jumping pose, the designs are completely different (as the Monty Mole Patches use the modern design for Monty Mole rather than their design used in ''Super Mario World''). While there are some Patch enemies from ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' based on sprites of their main counterpart's past appearances (such as the [[Bullet Bill Patch]] and [[Shell Patch]] being based on the sprites of their regular counterparts from the original ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''), Monty Mole Patch is not one of them and instead is just an original design.
 
==Monty Mole Swoopers falling into lava==
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When the sections on the [[Monty Mole]] page discussing the Mario manga were summarized on the Super Mario Wiki, one piece of info it stated was the [[Monty Mole Swooper]]s from volume 5 of ''[[Super Mario-kun]]'' falling into the [[lava]] after being defeated by [[Mario]] and his friends. This is false however, as the Monty Mole Swoopers forfeited their fight with Mario when him and his friends backed them into a corner. The Monty Mole Swoopers then told Mario and his friends where the pipe to [[Bowser's Castle]] is, with the Monty Mole Swoopers staying back at their farm.
 
However, other pages on the Super Mario Wiki discussing the Monty Mole Swoopers do not mention them falling in lava, as the Monty Mole Swoopers never fell in the lava. This misinterpretation was likely caused from the editor not reading through the manga or skimming through the original section prior to them summarizing the events. It could have also been confused with the part at the end of the chapter where Mario, [[Luigi]], and [[Yoshi]] fell into the lava after going in the pipe, and confusing that part for the Monty Mole Swoopers falling in the lava instead.
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==Morty Moles and Mega Moles being the same==
Back when ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]'' first released, fans mistakenmistakenly assumed that the [[Morty Mole]]s who appear in that game aswere actually [[Mega Mole]]s due to the both of them being enlarged [[Monty Mole]]s. However, Morty Moles have a different way of being defeated and also have extremely different designs to that of Mega Mole. andAdditionally, havethe completelyboth differentof designsthem andhave different names in most languages. However, despite this, Morty Moles do seem to have been based on Mega Moles during development, as their filename is the Japanese name for Mega Mole, being "Indy."
 
==Mushroom Kingdom in ''New Super Mario Bros. U''==
On the Super Mario Wiki, the first seven worlds in ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'', ''[[New Super Luigi U]]'', and ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe]]'' are treated as being apart of the [[Mushroom Kingdom]]. This however, is false as the worlds in the game are stated to be faraway regions from the Mushroom Kingdom not to mention the lack of Mushroom Kingdom-like landscapes seen in the seven worlds. These worlds are intended to be the outskirts of the Mushroom Kingdom but yet the Super Mario Wiki treats these as being 100% regions of the Mushroom Kingdom despite the little evidence suggesting this.
 
==''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' Bowser's Castle Ending==
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Some believe that in the ending of ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'', Bowser's Castle falls on and crushes [[Bowser]], [[Bowser Jr.]], and all 7 of the [[Koopalings]] after the six Koopalings around him help him back up. This is however unclear as the screen fades to black before the castle lands therefore it isn't clear if all 9 of them were crushed. [[Bowser]] and the six [[Koopalings]] around him were most definitely squashed by the Castle but some claim that Larry and Bowser Jr. were crushed as well despite standing further away from the Castle's fall-radius than the others (especially Larry who was heaps far away), whether or not the Castle landed on them as well is debatable.
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==Nitro Cups Name==
Some people claim that the name "Nitro Cups" is the name for the [[Mushroom Cup]], [[Flower Cup]], [[Star Cup]], and [[Special Cup]] in all the ''[[Mario Kart]]'' games starting with ''[[Mario Kart DS]]'' however this is only true for ''[[Mario Kart DS]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart 7]]''. They have never officially been referred to as "Nitro Cups" outside these games, in ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'', they are referred to as "Wii Cups" and in ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]]'', they are simply referred to as "New Cups". The name "Nitro Cup" was intended to pay homage to the [[Nintendo DS]]'s codename prior to it's reveal (which was "Nitro"). It was changed in all later games (except for ''[[Mario Kart 7]]'') as the reference would most likely be out of place on consoles unrelated to the Nintendo DS.
 
==Para-Beetles and Parabuzzies being the same==
[[Image:Para-Beetle Comparison.png|thumb|right|On the left and right respectively is the clear difference between a [[Para-Beetle]] and a [[Parabuzzy]] and in the middle is an image of the Rogueport Sewers fountain which has some Para-Beetle statues and it is also worth noting that Parabuzzies appear in the same game.]]
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==Peach's Castle in Peach Gardens==
[[Image:Peach's Castle Misconception.png|thumb|right|Proof that the Mansion in Peach Gardens isn't Peach's Castle, the Castle is shown in Mario Circuit and looks nothing like the mansion not to mention the setting around the mansion being different.]]
Some people claim that the large Peach Mansion in [[Peach Gardens]] is actually [[Peach's Castle]] ([[Peach]]'s main residence which debuted in ''[[Super Mario 64]]''). This is however false as the mansion shares no design similarities to Peach's Castle (such as being longer, only being one storeystory, the moat not being present, and overall having the design of a mansion). Additionally, the environment around the mansion doesn't look anything like how Peach's Castle does, Peach's actual Castle was shown to appear in [[Mario Circuit (Mario Kart DS)|Mario Circuit]] and it looked nothing like the Mansion in Peach Gardens.
 
No official sources have made any indication that this is Peach's Castle and the official Prima Games Guide for ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' has referred to it as Peach's Mansion pretty much confirming that this is not Peach's Castle.
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==Petey Piranha's sludge balls being Glorpedos==
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==Puffer Fish enemy from ''Super Mario Galaxy''==
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that the [[Puffer Fish]] enemy appearing in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' is actually a [[Spiny Cheep-Cheep]], this is false as the two enemies barely look alike, not to mention their behaviors are very different. Spiny Cheep-Cheeps usually home in on the plumbers and attempt to hit them upon sight (similar to a [[Rip Van Fish]]) while Puffer Fish attempt to charge at them before self destructing. Previously, it was mistaken for a [[Porcupuffer]] (another Puffer Fish found throughout the series). The official guide by Prima Games for ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' also made this mistake, however, the official guide by Prima Games for ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' as well as Nintendo Power simply refer to it as a Puffer Fish confirming it to be a separate enemy. The English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' also incorrectly referred to the Puffer Fish as Spiny Cheep Cheeps (though this source has been proven to be unreliable as it gave enemies the wrong names or referring to them as the incorrect species such as it incorrectly calling the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' [[Monty]] a [[Rocky Wrench]]).
 
==Rocky Wrench being a part of the Koopa species==
In the Super Mario Wiki, Rocky Wrench is listed as being a species of [[Koopa (species)|Koopa]]. Although various early sources for Rocky Wrench called them a turtle (such as many official ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' related media and even the Writers Bible for ''[[The Adventure of Super Mario Bros. 3]]''), Rocky Wrenches were never called a Koopa in any of these sources. Some people say the Japanese ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' instruction booklet claimed that Rocky Wrench was a part of the Koopa species. However, it only said that Rocky Wrench was from the "Turtle Tribe" (which is likely just another name for the [[Koopa Troop]]).<ref name="Poo">「モグラようなカメ{{hover|族|ぞく}}。{{hover|穴|あな}}からニョキッと{{hover|出|で}}てきてスパナを{{hover|投|な}}げてくる。{{hover|飛行船|ひこうせん}}の{{hover|乗組員|のりくみいん}}だ。」 ("''Mole-like members of the [[Koopa Troop|Turtle Tribe]]. They will pop out of a hole to throw their spanner. They are the maintenance crew of the airship.''") - ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' Japanese instruction booklet, page 38.</ref>
 
==Rocky Wrench in ''WarioWare: Twisted!''==
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==Rocky Wrench not being a Monty Mole species==
In the early days of the Super Mario Wiki, many fans debated on if [[Rocky Wrench]] iswas a part [[Monty Mole]] species or not (with some people claiming that they are unrelated, even with the similarities the two species have). Rocky Wrench being a turtle or a mole was also debated during this time.
 
However, Rocky Wrench is likely both a turtle and a mole as they are confirmed to be so in several descriptions (with older descriptions of Rocky Wrench also calling them a "mole-like turtle"). Rocky Wrenches also have many connections to Monty Mole such as their redesign in ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' looking nearly the same as a Monty Mole, Rocky Wrenches being grouped with Monty Moles in various guidebooks which feature the both of them, [[Pūko]] from ''[[Super Mario-kun]]'' [[Super Mario-kun Volume 46|volume 46]] being both a Monty Mole and a Rocky Wrench (or at the very least a Monty Mole with a Rocky Wrench persona), ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' and its [[Super Mario Maker for the Nintendo 3DS|3Ds port]] having Rocky Wrench becoming a Monty Mole in the course maker when shaking them and vice versa (though this does not apply for ''[[Super Mario Maker 2]]''), among other pieces of evidence.
 
Despite all the evidence, some people back then still said Rocky Wrenches were unrelated to Monty Moles, yet ironically said [[Undergrunt]]s were Monty Mole species despite the Undergrunts having no reliable official confirmation on being a part of the Monty Mole species, and them also having completely different designs and attack patterns as well that barely resemble anything the Monty Mole species has done.
 
==Spikes and Spike Traps being the same==
On the Super Mario Wiki, the [[Spike Trap]] obstacles from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' are treated the same as the typical [[Spike (obstacle)|Spike]] hazards found in many mainstream ''[[Mario (franchise)|Mario]]'' games with "Spike Trap" being used as the standard name for both of them. This however, is false as the Spike Traps share little design resemblances to the basic Spikes, the regular Spikes appear as singular Spikes while Spike Traps are orbs that are composed of Spikes around them, additionally, Spike Traps are often seen floating something that regular Spikes aren't ever seen doing. Additionally, the "Spike Trap" name has only been used for the ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' obstacle and has never been used for the regular Spikes found in most other games.
 
==Spinner Name==
[[Image:Ball And Chain Naming Misconception.png|thumb|right|A collage of sources with five of them (top left: ''Super Mario World'' credits, top right: ''Super Mario Advance 2'' Prima Guide, middle left: the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' Internal Files, bottom left: ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' Prima Guide (which was released after ''NSMBU''), bottom right: The Nintendo Power Advance Magazine (2002)), showing the Ball 'n' Chain name and the middle right image shows the the ''NSMBU'' Prima Guide using the conjectural "Spinner" name proving that the name is exclusive to said guide rather than being the obstacle's new and current name. There are numerous more examples of "Ball 'n' Chain / Ball and Chain" being used over "Spinner" which further proves it's illegitimacy as a name.]]
On the Super Mario Wiki (as of late 2016), the [[Ball 'n' Chain]] obstacle is referred to as a "Spinner". This name originated from the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'' Prima Guide however said guide has been known for using names that are either dubious or conjectural for certain enemies and objects but yet the Super Mario Wiki treats the "Spinner" name as the [[Ball 'n' Chain]]'s new and current name despite the fact that the name "Spinner" has never been used in any sources outside the ''NSMBU'' Prima Guide. At the time of the article's rename, ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'' (which was released after ''NSMBU'') was already out and that game's guide had the object under the name "Ball and Chain" which pretty much debunks the claim that "Spinner" is the replacement name. Additionally, in ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'', the Ball 'n' Chains are referred to as "Pendulums" in-game and as "Ball And Chains" in the game's files further showing that the name "Spinner" was most likely conjectural (and the author of the guide probably didn't know the object's actual name). Most other sources are seen using the name "Ball 'n' Chain" making that the more common name, the Super Mario Wiki even used the "Spinner" name when referring to the Ball 'n' Chain's role in some of the ''[[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]]'' games as well as ''[[Mario Party 10]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]]'' despite the name "Spinner" never being used in any of those games (especially the latter where their name is "Ball and Chain").
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==Super Mario Galaxy Robot Merges==
On the Super Mario Wiki (up until 2019), many of the laser-shooting robot enemies from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' (namely, the [[Sentry Beam]], [[Spring Robot]], [[Ring Beamer]], [[Ball Beamer]], [[Eye Beamer]], and [[Jump Guarder]]) all shared the same page and were treated as being the same with "Sentry Beam" being used as the standard name for all of them. However, the enemies not only all have different names but they share absolutely no design similarities, and most of them have different behaviors with the only similarity being that they all (except for the [[Jump Guarder]]) shoot beams of electricity. No official sources have made any indication that the species' are connected in any way, not to mention a different name being applied for each one in various sources such as Guides, Nintendo Power, and even the Internal Files.
 
Various illegitimate sources such as the ''[[English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]]'' have labelled the Spring Robots as "[[Sentry Beam]]s" and the Sentry Beams as "Mobile Sentry Beams" and the ''[[Mario Portal]]'' has labelled the [[Jump Guarder]] as a "[[Sentry Garage]]" (but these sources has been proven to be illegitimate as they have given enemies the wrong names or referring to them as the incorrect species such as the ''Mario Portal'' incorrectly calling the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' [[Monty]] a [[Rocky Wrench]]).
 
 
==Tick-Tock Clock Moving Bars being Bomps==
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==Turtle Tribe VS Koopa Troop==
Some believe that the name "Turtle Tribe" is merely the Japanese name for the "[[Koopa Troop]]" ([[Bowser]]'s Army) however factually, "Turtle Tribe" is actually the original name for the "Koopa Troop". In the Instruction Booklets for both ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' Bowser's Army is referred to as the Turtle Tribe<ref>Super Mario Bros. Instruction Booklet (English) - "The Princess as well as her Mushroom Retainers are being held in one of the Castles by the Turtle Tribe."</ref><ref>Super Mario Bros. 3 Instruction Booklet (English) - "A host of new characters have joined Bowser and his Turtle Tribe. With this information on these new enemies, you'll be well prepared."</ref> however later games have listed the army under different names (with the most common being the Koopa Troop). Some people also incorrectly believe that the Turtle Tribe is referring to the [[Koopa (species)|Koopa]] species (despite it being a name for the Koopa Troop). This misconception lead to the Super Mario Wiki incorrectly saying that [[Rocky Wrench]] is a part of the Koopa species due to the Japanese ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' instruction booklet saying they were a part of the Turtle Tribe.<ref name="Poo">「モグラようなカメ{{hover|族|ぞく}}。{{hover|穴|あな}}からニョキッと{{hover|出|で}}てきてスパナを{{hover|投|な}}げてくる。{{hover|飛行船|ひこうせん}}の{{hover|乗組員|のりくみいん}}だ。」 ("''Mole-like members of the [[Koopa Troop|Turtle Tribe]]. They will pop out of a hole to throw their spanner. They are the maintenance crew of the airship.''") - ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' Japanese instruction booklet, page 38.</ref> However the instruction booklet was referring to the Koopa Troop (due to the Turtle Tribe being a name for the Koopa Troop) and not the Koopa species. However, Rocky Wrench would be confirmed to be related to the Koopa species in the official German ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' guidebook, ''[[Super Mario Power]]''.
 
==Unagis and Maw-Rays being the same==
[[Image:Unagi VS Maw-Ray Difference.png|thumb|right|The Unagi's ''MKT'' appearance alongside the Maw-Ray's which shows their differences proving that they're two separate Eel species that only look similar.]]
On the Super Mario Wiki, the [[Unagi]]s and [[Maw-Ray]]s share the same page and are treated as the same species, this however, is false as while Unagis and Maw-Rays have design similarities, the two are a completely separate Eel species, a couple differences include Maw-Rays lacking the distinct fins Unagis have as well as Maw-Rays having a couple facial features (as well as more rows of teeth) something that Unagis don’t have as well as being larger than a typical Unagi (being close to the size of a [[Mega Unagi]], additionally, Unagis typically swim around the waters (sometimes biting those that come near) while Maw-Rays lunge from their holes at a rapid speed similar to a [[Gringill]] (not to mention that Maw-Rays are also found in areas other than oceans such as those in the [[Mushroom Kingdom]] skies. Further proof that Maw-Rays are separate and not a mere redesign of Unagi is that every other returning enemy in ''SMO'' wasn’t redesigned, additionally, Unagis appear in ''[[Mario Kart Tour]]'' retaining their traditional design. Additionally, the "Maw-Ray" name was never used outside ''[[Super Mario Odyssey]]''.
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Various YouTube videos showcasing the evolution of Unagis have also classed Maw-Rays as the same species however these videos have also considered [[Gringill]]s and [[Spike Eel]]s the same as well (despite both of these being completely unrelated to both Unagis and Maw-Rays).
 
Illegitimate sources such as the English [[Mario Portal]] have constantly referred to Unagis as Maw-Rays but this source has been proven to be unreliable as it has given incorrect names for enemies or has given some enemies the name of a completely unrelated enemy (such as calling the ''SMG'' [[Puffer Fish]] a [[Spiny Cheep Cheep]], calling the [[Snufit]] a [[Snifit]], and calling ''SMG'' [[Monty]] a [[Rocky Wrench]]).
 
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==Vibe and Colored Enemies in ''Super Princess Peach''==
[[Image:SPP Collage.png|thumb|right|A collage showing various screenshots regarding theevery wholepoint of the thingmisconception from top left to bottom right, Picture A: Bowser and his goons are shown to be affected by the Vibe Scepter but then they're back to normal in the next screenshot (Picture B) showing that it's effects are temporary, next, on Picture C, it's shown that Peach also has her own Vibes but she wasn't on the Island when the Vibe Scepter was used by the Goomba, the next image, Picture D, shows a [[Mad Green Koopa]] (one of the vibe/colored enemies of the game) who looks different from an average Koopa Troopa (unlike those affected by the Scepter who look the same whilst infused) additionally, the vibe enemies have some extra abilities and are fully conscious of what they're doing meanwhile the Vibe Scepter sends those affected crazy (as seen in Picture A) and if it was the Vibe Scepter how come it only affected some of the enemies rather than every enemy (because the Vibe Scepter is shown to affected everyone within it's radius), Picture E shows that Vibe Island holds great power suggesting that the island is magical (hence it's name) and those that are on it are granted with Vibe Power (like Peach who can control her vibes) and the enemies who appear to naturally be like that, Picture F shows the Glossary description for the [[Sad Goomba]] which makes no indication of it's affected status, many more glossary descriptions treat them as separate sub-species rather than regular enemies affected by the scepter.]]
On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that all the enemies in ''[[Super Princess Peach]]'' that appear to be vibe infused or have different colors (such as the [[Red Paragoomba]]) are under the effects of the [[Vibe Scepter]] which was used at the beginning of the game by an affected Goomba. This however has been proven false as the effects of the Vibe Scepter were only shown to affect the room of Bowser's Villa rather than the whole island, additionally, the effects were shown to be temporary as those that were affected (such as [[Bowser]] and the [[Army Hammer Bro.]]) were shown to be back to normal later on, additionally, those that are affected by the Vibe Scepter look about the same whereas the vibe enemies look rather different to their species origin, especially in the Glossary where they're treated as a separate species rather than the same enemy. More likely the case is the enemies are naturally like that from the magic of Vibe Island (as the game's opening did state that the Island "holds great power") especially with Peach who can control her Vibes but she obviously wasn't affected as she wasn't on the Island when the Vibe Scepter was struck on Bowser's Villa. Additionally, it is shown that everyone within the radius of the Scepter was affected in both Peach's Castle and Bowser's Villa however there are several enemies that appear normal as well. It also has never officially been stated if the enemies are affected by the Scepter or not.
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