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This is a '''list of misconceptions''' throughout the [[Mario (franchise)|''Mario'' franchise]] and related media. This could range from considering different species (related or not) as being identical to other species, or information that is dubious. Most of these misconceptions either come from fans, YouTube videos, or the Super Mario Wiki.
 
==Big Monty Mole and Mega Mole being the same==
Shortly after the release of ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'', the Super Mario Wiki treated the [[big Monty Mole]]s in the game as [[Mega Mole]]s and put them in the same page as them up until sometime in [[2019]], when ''[[Yoshi's Crafted World]]'' released. However, big Monty Moles and Mega Moles share nothing in common besides being enlarged [[Monty Mole]]s. While Mega Moles have unique properties such as being able to be stood on and not chasing the player, big Monty Moles in ''Super Mario Maker'' function the exact same as their regular counterparts, only bigger. Additionally, big Monty Moles look like normal Monty Moles in the ''[[Super Mario World]]'' style, further proving that they are not Mega Moles.
 
==Blue tuxedo Monty Moles==
For the longest time up until mid-late [[2021]], the ''[[Super Mario Adventures]]'' section on the [[Monty Mole]] page in the Super Mario Wiki incorrectly claimed that there were Monty Moles wearing blue tuxedos that appeared in the penultimate issue. However, these were [[Mega Mole]]s wearing blue tuxedos and not Monty Moles as they were bigger and had the Mega Mole design features. Notably in the first page of the issue, one of the Mega Moles wearing blue tuxedos can be seen along with a Monty Mole wearing a red tuxedo.
 
==Cheep-Chomps, Boss Basses, and other large Cheep-Cheeps==
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==English Mario Portal: reliable or unreliable?==
On mid-2022, the English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' was released on Nintendo's Japanese website displaying the "English names" and descriptions for several enemies from various games such as ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'', and more.
 
However the names displayed were unofficial and illegitimate as the site has given many enemies outdated or outright false names (such as naming [[Swoopin' Stu]] as "Gooble" (which was used on the Super Mario Wiki from 2015-2019 due to a hasty rename)), the site has been shown calling enemies either by names that were not for the game they appeared in (such as naming all of the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' enemies by their names from ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]''), enemies inconstantly being called generic names (such as naming the [[Starbag]]s as "Tracks"), or flat out calling an enemy using the name of an entirely separate species regardless of if they are a part of the same species or not. (A couple examples of this include the [[Monty]] being incorrectly called [[Rocky Wrench]] or [[Prickly Piranha Plant]] being incorrectly called [[Spiny Piranha Plant]]).
 
It was later discovered that about 89% of the names were taken from the Super Mario Wiki (both old versions and new versions), 4% were taken from MarioWiki (on Fandom/Wikia), and the other 7% were names that are either outright false or names that were lost in translation a similar thing that happened with the English ''[[Super Mario Encyclopedia]]'' in late 2018.
 
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==Rocky Wrench being a part of the Koopa species==
In the Super Mario Wiki, Rocky Wrench is listed as being a species of [[Koopa (species)|Koopa]]. Although in various early sources for Rocky Wrench called them a turtle (such as many official ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' related media and even the Writers Bible for ''[[The Adventure of Super Mario Bros. 3]]''), Rocky Wrenches were never called a Koopa in any of these sources. Some people say the Japanese ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' instruction booklet claimed that Rocky Wrench was a part of the Koopa species. However, it only said that Rocky Wrench was from the "Turtle Tribe" (which is likely just another name for the [[Koopa Troop]]).<ref name="Poo">「モグラようなカメ{{hover|族|ぞく}}。{{hover|穴|あな}}からニョキッと{{hover|出|で}}てきてスパナを{{hover|投|な}}げてくる。{{hover|飛行船|ひこうせん}}の{{hover|乗組員|のりくみいん}}だ。」 ("''Mole-like members of the [[Koopa Troop|Turtle Tribe]]. They will pop out of a hole to throw their spanner. They are the maintenance crew of the airship.''") - ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' Japanese instruction booklet, page 38.</ref>
 
==Rocky Wrench in ''WarioWare: Twisted!''==
The Super Mario Wiki (up until late [[2021]]) stated that [[Rocky Wrench]] appeared in ''[[WarioWare: Twisted!]]'' in the [[Super Mario Bros. 3 (lift microgame)|Super Mario Bros. 3-Lift]]. This however, is false, as Rocky Wrench is not seen in the original version of this microgame. However, Rocky Wrenches were added in the ''[[WarioWare: Gold]]'' version of the microgame as an additional enemy. It is likely that this misconception came from people mistakenly thinking Rocky Wrenches also appearing in the ''WarioWare: Twisted!'' version in the microgame by proxy, despite Rocky Wrenches being a later addition in the ''WarioWare: Gold'' version of the microgame.
 
==Rocky Wrench not being a Monty Mole species==
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==Undergrunts being Monty Moles/Montys being Rocky Wrenches==
Back when ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' first released, many fans mistaken the mole species from that game, the [[Undergrunt]]s, as the exact same as [[Monty Mole]]s (or a species related to them), due to the Undergrunts being the only mole species featured in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and its sequel ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' and having vague similarities. [[Monty]] was also mistaken for [[Rocky Wrench]] by fans as well, due to their similar [[wrench]] throwing behaviors. This misconception was mainly from older revisions of Super Mario Wiki (and various other Mario wikis) and some YouTube videos that are compilations of Monty Mole's evolution in the series which incorrectly showed Undergrunt species and treated them as a part of the Monty Mole species (with these videos usually also treating [[Major Burrows]] as a regular Monty Mole or the only mole in ''Super Mario Galaxy'', despite both of those being incorrect).
 
However, none of the Undergrunt species have any reliable official sources that confirm them being a species or relative to Monty Moles. Additionally, Undergrunts bare little to no intentional design similarities to any of the Monty Mole species (despite some fans saying otherwise) and also having completely separate attack patterns as well that do not match any Monty Mole attack patterns in the series before and since. [[Undergrunt Gunner]]s are also often compared to the Monty Moles from ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', although the Undergrunt Gunner fights have completely different attacks and ways on being defeated to that of the ''Super Mario Sunshine'' Monty Mole fights with the only similarity is their manning of a cannon (although the cannons have completely different functions and designs). [[Major Burrows]] was also originally thought of to be the leader of the Monty Mole species or even just a regular Monty Mole. However, this is false since Major Burrows is the leader of the Undergrunt species (which people confused for Monty Moles) and shares no connection to the Monty Mole species whatsoever. It would also physically be impossible for Major Burrows to be a regular Monty Mole, due to how completely different he is. Additionally, the E3 [[2010]] beta for ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' shows a [[King Choropū|King Monty Mole]] which further proves that Major Burrows is not the leader of the species, as the King Monty Mole was made after Major Burrows was created. Although ''Super Mario Galaxy'' Monty has some similarities to Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench (such as having a similar name as the former and a similar attack pattern to the latter), Monty has no design resemblance to any of the Monty Mole species and has a different way on being defeated than to Rocky Wrench. Montys also hide in their holes if Mario gets too close to them, something that Rocky Wrenches do not do. Additionally, none of the Undergrunt species Japanese names bare any resemblance to the Japanese names for the Monty Mole species.
 
Some illegitimate official sources have given Montys from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' an incorrect name, such as the English ''[[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]]'' incorrectly naming them Monty Mole and the English ''[[Mario Portal]]'' incorrectly naming them Rocky Wrench.
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