User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster

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Welcome to the wiki, hope you like it here! I actually didn't create it (it's HannahMontanaFan who did), but I founded all of the affiliates in the side-section. I often don't like to advertise, but I felt the Yoshipedia thing was unique (Monty Moles are counted as part of both the Mario & Yoshi franchise) & I remember seeing your username on MarioWiki on Fandom Bawitdaba (talk) 12:46, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I am glad to help but I do wonder if I can copy and paste the manga sections I originally wrote for the Mario Wiki that were replaced? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:48, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing; as sitenotice suggests, this wiki is based on the MarioWiki from its earlier days & shares the compatible CC-BY-SA license. I give credit by linking to the MarioWiki article in the edit summary, as license require to give credit (and it's ethical as well) Bawitdaba (talk) 12:52, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Ok cool, mind if you upload or replace images to help with this as well? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:00, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Sure, though I need to get breakfast. I'll be back in perhaps a few hours or so, if that helps (I need to do morning chores as well). To give further context to this place, I decided on the name "Mariopedia" and bought the domain, styled the site & did the background graphic, as I could tell the actual founder (HMfan) was trying to create a Mario wiki based on the earlier days of the main one Bawitdaba (talk) 13:06, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

I am editing in the information but I would very much appreciate if you helped add images back, so far I made the Monty Mole page have the manga section as the previous revision but the other info from the main page. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:09, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Also I am planning for the Big Monty Mole page and the Mega Monty Mole page to be much different than what is on Mario Wiki since it would be split into two different pages (and also Super Choropū). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:11, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

A PipeProject

The abandoned feature from MarioWiki -- PipeProjects -- I repurposed for here. I made one at PipeProject:Monty Moles, as I can tell we have several ideas on articles for Monty Moles and their relatives & could be best to organize the ideas. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:39, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Quick question, are you cool helping upload all the Monty Mole species images from the Super Mario Wiki into this wiki? Also how do PipeProjects work exactly? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:42, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I am good wit doing that when I get more time today. And PipeProjects -- I think could think of them as like class projects. In this case the Monty Mole-related subjects & improving upon their articles, and once satisfactory, the goals can be marked as completed and eventually the PipeProject itself (although the thing with wikis is the work is neverending but this is more about getting the Monty Mole-related articles up to speed). The talk page is for where discussion relating to the project is at (I already started a question as an example). Bawitdaba (talk) 13:49, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Will you also help me with making the pages, so far I have been copying and pasting the info from Super Mario Wiki but making minor adjustments like fixing errors. Some pages like Big Monty Mole I wont make just yet cause I am planning to split that page into Big Monty Mole, Mega Monty Mole, and Super Choropū. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:55, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Yes Bawitdaba (talk) 13:57, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Also, I might take a break from editing for now but are you cool with helping create pages and uploading images as well to help out? Also, is it cool if the origami variants of enemies get their own pages (like what the fandom wiki does)? Oh and by the way I am making the pages for Mawful Moles and then I will take a break cause this is a bit exhausting. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 14:04, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Ok I added the stuff to the Mawful Mole pages (besides images), I am going to take a small break so are you cool with helping add more Monty Mole species pages (including the manga ones)? Also, should the Chubby page be deleted since it was basically only just a very minor Monty Mole very briefly mentioned in the Mario Kart 64 instruction booklet and nowhere else? Oh and I don’t really think it reappeared in Mario Kart DS. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 14:20, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Okay, so I'm back from morning chores. I didn't make the Chubby article, though I would've probably wanted it merged. HannahMontanaFan created the article, so may want to ask him first Bawitdaba (talk) 16:31, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I finished most of the Monty Mole species and relatives pages so mind helping create most of the character pages? Oh and also, can you help upload the images that were used on the Mario Wiki as well? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:38, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

I already said I would, yeah Bawitdaba (talk) 16:46, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Also, I accidentally glitched the Monty Tank image, mind helping fix it? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:05, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

It didn't seem glitched when I looked at it, but I did my best attempt at making the image transparent, if that helps Bawitdaba (talk) 19:16, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

My format for the website glitched and it makes things harder to see, how do I revert it back to normal? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:28, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Mind showing a screencap? Did you hard-refresh? (Ctrl+Shift+R)? Bawitdaba (talk) 19:32, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Don’t worry it is fixed now, also my question I said on your take page? Oh and do you know anyone that can read Japanese? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:37, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

I replied to you on my talk page -- I said I don't know anyone who can speak Japanese & that the Random Hoo Has archive still looks to be publicly accessible. Bawitdaba (talk) 19:44, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

It was a certain section that I got most of my scans from that went private. Also I am nearly done with making the pages (besides the enlarged Monty Moles). Also since you have those scans, do volumes 24, 33, and 34 have any Monty Mole appearances? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:59, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

I haven't checked -- are you able to download that Super Mario-kun collection from archive.org? What is it that went private by the way? Bawitdaba (talk) 20:32, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

No that wasn’t it, in fact I did not know that archive existed until you told me. I tried downloading it but it was too big so mind checking volumes 24, 33, and 34 to see if they have any Monty Mole species since those were the only volumes I did not check? If there are any Monty Mole species appearances mind providing screenshots as well? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 20:36, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

The individual volumes can be downloaded this way, but sure I could check Bawitdaba (talk) 20:38, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, also mind making the Big Monty Mole and Mega Monty Mole pages? I want them to be like the ones I made for the fandom Mario Wiki. Is that cool with you? Also most of the manga mole pages on the Super Mario Wiki (besides gattai monster and Sphinx Zō) were made by me. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 20:46, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I was wondering why those were left blank -- I'll make those too. Whew we're on to a lot of work here :P Bawitdaba (talk) 20:50, September 5, 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay -- I've ported over your two Mario fandom articles on Big Monty Mole and Mega Monty Mole respectively to Mariopedia Bawitdaba (talk) 00:02, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok, I fixed the King Monty Mole page and made a Super Chororpū page. I also fixed some things on the Big Monty Mole page if that is ok with you. I will create some new pages, mind uploading more Rocky Wrench images to? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:05, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yeee -- you can also add to Template:Monty Moles as you go along Bawitdaba (talk) 00:09, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Oh and also, can the Monty Mole from the Wonderland series in Super Mario 4koma Manga Theater get their own page? They have a pretty major role in that series as basically their own character (even if they are still referred to as a Monty Mole, could it be like the Mario Party Advance Monty Mole)? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:16, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yes you're allowed to make that Bawitdaba (talk) 00:23, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Oh also, I am making the ghost Monty Mole page and when it is done mind uploading the volume 55 scan of them? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:24, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yea I can do that Bawitdaba (talk) 00:26, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Ok I made the page, feel free to add more info to it. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:35, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Looks like you managed to add the image Bawitdaba (talk) 02:18, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Expansion

Alrighty, does this help? I reused the Mario Fandom section & added the screenshot you requested. Bawitdaba (talk) 01:54, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah looks good, might expand upon it later. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:56, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Have I been helpful?

I hope today has served you well Bawitdaba (talk) 02:43, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah you have been really helpful today, we basically made the skeleton of what the Monty Mole species pages will be. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 02:53, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I just hoped my help was satisfactory because there have been loads of tasks for us, and I've worked through them to the best of my ability (the galleries & reupping Mario-kun images are still to-do at time of me typing this msg). I will need to sleep soon Bawitdaba (talk) 03:02, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that PipeProject list

It's just an overwhelming amount of tasks, if that makes sense, and we weren't able to complete it all in one day, so it's better if it's sorted as a bullet list (hence reason I did the PipeProject & looks like it was a good idea to revive the feature over here). Know what I mean? Also, I'll take your word for the Mario Portal thing, but I still think that at least some English names, such as Moofish, are better than nothing. However, in case of Moofish, the MarioWiki never used that as the article title. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:47, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Thanks, I still don’t want names of enemies from the Mario Portal being used even if they aren’t that bad like Moofish. I just can’t trust the Mario Portal considering all the wrong information it provided. Also mind answering some of my other questions I said in the talk page? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:51, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Oh sorry, what else did you ask? Bawitdaba (talk) 12:52, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: I am back, so for the Super Mario 4koma Manga Theater section should I group all the strips into a singular volume like how it is with other manga appearances, or do I keep it as is where each strip is spaced out? Also, how has the Monty Mole species images been going? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:09, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Haven't yet, sorry -- I was slowly working on the Metal Box article, so I hadn't gotten to that yet. I'll do that right now. As for the strips, I'd keep them as separate (like make subsections if there's a lot to say for each volume) Bawitdaba (talk) 22:13, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok, I am planning on making a page for the Monty Mole in the wonderland series so I will take care of the 4koma Manga Theater stuff, should I have the volumes being bold so that it is easier to tell what page it is? Also should I call the page Choropū (Wonderland) due to it being a Japanese source? 22:15, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Oh and also, I added the merge request for the Chubby page so mind merging it? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:21, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Do as you see fit, and yeah I'll go ahead and do w' what you requested for Chubby Bawitdaba (talk) 22:49, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Ok cool, wanna replace the physical scan Super Mario-kun images right now (which are basically all the images I uploaded past Choropūko (volume 23) with the exception of the classic Rocky Wrench image from volume 30)? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:57, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I can do that, one moment (sry I've been scattered lately) Bawitdaba (talk) 22:59, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

I'm on it -- I've already replaced quite a few Bawitdaba (talk) 23:28, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

I saw the new images, they look gold but kind reuploading the Pūko Rocky Wrench one since it is bugged on my device and you cropped out the infobox of the image. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:34, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

Ok it has been replaced Bawitdaba (talk) 23:37, September 6, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: I added the volume 3 Super Mario 4koma Manga Theater info for the Monty Mole page using the old translations Mariuigi Khed gave to me before I was banned. Anyways are the stuff in the inappropriate tabs too dark? Also mind continuing to try and find someone who can help with translations? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:03, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

No you used the Inappropriate template just fine, thank you :) Bawitdaba (talk) 00:04, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

By the way, what specifically do you want translated? Bawitdaba (talk) 00:05, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Super Mario 4koma Manga Theater volumes 4 and above (I got translations for volumes 1 and 3 though). Plus the rest of the 4koma Manga after I am finished with this one and also some other manga stuff later down the road, mind if I send the scans for volume 4? I will send them after I finish adding the volume 3 stuff to the Monty Mole (Wonderland) page. 00:13, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

Japanese translator ideas

I just had an idea someone who could help you with naming: an admin/crat on the Japanese MarioWiki on Fandom (looks like he knows some English & has made 2 edits to the Mario fandom wiki before). Bawitdaba (talk) 00:18, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

Ok I asked them but I am still busy so we can wait for them to respond. Anything else we should do? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:37, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

I guess find things to edit seeing as we're on a wiki :P Bawitdaba (talk) 00:40, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

Are you cool with helping out with adding more Monty Mole species info and also uploading images for the Rocky Wrench gallery? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:41, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

I could probably finish up the two galleries you mentioned, but as for Monty Mole info -- it will need to come to me first. I could possibly add a List of appearances section -- I did add something on the Monty Mole article's Mario Kart 64 section, if that's of any help. There's probably also some profiles to add, perhaps article on the whack-a-mole minigame in NSMBDS & other things relating to Monty Mole Bawitdaba (talk) 00:45, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

Oh also mind making a characteristics section on the Monty Mole page that is like the one on the Wiggler page? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:47, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

I could get to that some time, but right now I'm filling in the galleries. Bawitdaba (talk) 00:54, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

I did reply to you on the Japanese admin's message wall (although you were probably notified), but I stated that reason with two is that both us looking for some translation help Bawitdaba (talk) 03:36, September 7, 2022 (UTC)

Looks like Mariuigi Khed is on Fandom & can be contacted via YouTube or email here. Bawitdaba (talk) 00:35, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Ok I messaged him on fandom, if he doesn’t respond I could send him an email to. So uh, are you cool with getting some of the stuff listed on the PipeProject done right now? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:12, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

I'm still on some of the Monty Mole gallery stuff Bawitdaba (talk) 01:16, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok, but afterwards could you help with some of the stuff with the PipeProject? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:18, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's one of the PipeProject tasks Bawitdaba (talk) 01:33, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

Worn a bit thin

I think I'm going to take a break from editing Monty/Rocky Wrench species-related pages (perhaps aside from List of appearances) because I'm worn thin from all that hard work at porting over all this Monty-related stuff over the past 2 or so days & altering it for the wiki. I hope you understand -- I'm not break from editing -- just the Monty/Rocky stuff Bawitdaba (talk) 23:00, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Yeah I understand, it is fine to take a break (sometimes I get tired to and take a small break from editing). It can be stressful sometimes and I understand. So after the list of appearances stuff you will take the break right, and after your break will you still help with the pages, just curious? I can still help edit the pages for you so that is fine. Anyways, hope you get a good rest, will it be like for a day or two? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:04, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

Like I said, I'll still be editing. Aside GB/GBC screenshots aside as well as List of appearance, can't immediately think of how else to help on those articles (though I could check the PipeProject list). And some tasks are better suited for someone else, like you with the manga, as you've read it & have gotten the translations from Khed before Bawitdaba (talk) 23:18, September 8, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Yeah fair I can do the manga sections and making new pages. If I need any help with other stuff is it cool if I just place it in the PipeProject and you can do it there? Lastly, are you gonna help making the list of appearances sections for the Monty Mole species right now or later? Oh and for books, will it be just all the books and volumes going from chronological order or like a section for each book series? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:18, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

You know, come to think of it, I should get to it now to show you what i'm talking about Bawitdaba (talk) 00:27, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok cool. Also sorry if I don’t make any big edits every single day, sometimes I get stressed because of that but you aren’t mad when I take a break here and there right? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:32, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

ofc I don't get mad. Actually I made this section because I was afraid you'd be annoyed at me if I took a hiatus (or if I reached a point where I felt I gave all the help I could) :P Bawitdaba (talk) 00:43, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

Don’t worry I am not mad or anything, after all we do need a breather every once in a while, that is why I only make like one or two major edits a day and mostly just make smaller edits. Anyways how is progress going on the appearance sections? I can help with expanding the roles if needed once the sections are finished. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:45, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

I'm working on the appearances section rn (but will have dinner soon before returning to do this some more). Don't worry about it Bawitdaba (talk) 01:01, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba: Ok cool, uh also I had a question about the NES Open Tournament Golf Monty Mole in your talk page and I was wondering if you could respond to it? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:11, September 9, 2022 (UTC)

I do have an idea

Seeing as you love Monty Moles so much, you could go to Meta and request starting a wiki specifically on Monty Moles. It could have theories, stuff on your Monty Mole iceberg, etc. Does this idea sound good? Like you contribute here too ofc, but that could be like your personal & sandbox wiki Bawitdaba (talk) 12:52, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Thanks for the offer, but I am content with editing on this wiki. Anyways I will get to making the big and winged variant Monty Mole species pages soon but before I do can you check if they have unique names when placed? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:01, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

I'll see if I can get to doing that. It might not be immediately though (as I have a couple of other things to do irl first). Bawitdaba (talk) 22:07, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Oh ok, just tell me when you did it. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:08, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Oh also, mind checking if there was any Monty Mole species stuff in concept art for Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (you can watch a YouTube video to find it, the reason I am asking is because I am bad for searching stuff)? Also, can you help provide images for the big and winged Monty Mole/Rocky Wrench variants? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:47, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

I checked, and the in-game voice does not provide names for big/winged & big winged Rocky & Monty variants in Mario Maker. Not sure about searching for species stuff.i could check if sprites for those variants on Spriters Resource. Bawitdaba (talk) 23:54, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

Ok mind uploading them here? I also know that the Super Mario Wiki has sprites for the winged variants to. Also, do you mind providing screenshots for the big variants (due to them sharing the same sprites) and the NSMBU style stuff (since it is hard to find the winged sprites for them unless you are able to)? Anyways, just remind me when you upload the needed sprites, thanks. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:58, September 19, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense that the big variants share the same sprites. Ok here's the two sprites: and Bawitdaba (talk) 00:47, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

I took some screenshots from YouTube videos, though not for the winged versions yet. Hopefully it should be ok Bawitdaba (talk) 01:18, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

Cool thanks, I will make a page for big Rocky Wrench but the winged variants will probably have to be on hold until there are more sprites and screenshots uploaded if that is ok with you. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:36, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome -- I hope you don't mind I settled upon YouTube screencaps for Mario Maker because I don't have a way to capture Wii U screencaps natively Bawitdaba (talk) 02:26, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Its fine the screenshots look good anyways, you can also get screenshots for Super Mario Maker 2 if you want. Anyways mind helping with the winged mole sprites and screenshots (plus a screenshot of big winged Monty Mole/Rocky Wrench in the NSMBU style)? Oh also, do you mind getting screenshots of the other levels that big Monty Moles appear in Yoshi’s Crafted World? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 03:46, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

I don't have means to extract Wii U sprites, like I said, and I prefer to not assemble the sprites manually. I might be able to retrieve screencaps for those -- what's the level screenshot in that infobox? Bawitdaba (talk) 12:46, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Most of the winged enemy sprites (besides the SMW winged Monty Mole and the NSMBU winged stuff) can be found here: https://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Super_Mario_Maker_sprites. Also mind providing screenshots for the winged enemies in the NSMBU style (I can crop the images like what I did for big Rocky Wrench). Is it fine if like the NSMBU style is used for like the infobox for winged and big enemies? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:56, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

Yes it's fine, as it's the most modern style within that game's release. Also, add to the PipeProject list, as it may take a while for me to find some. Bawitdaba (talk) 23:09, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Ok I will go do that, you can use the Super Mario Maker gallery from Super Mario Wiki for help to (though please crop the wrenches out). Also, do you mind uploading the other defeat animations for Rocky Wrench in Super Mario Maker? Also should I call the Flower Fields Monty Moles by their Japanese name or no? Also how do I use the same reference twice? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:34, September 20, 2022 (UTC)

I added the two sprites of Monty and Rocky respectively above though? The same reference can be used twice by giving it a name. Here's an example:

First use: <ref name="example1">Example</ref>

Second, third, etc. uses: <ref name="example1"/>

Just call the Flower Fields ones "Monty Moles" and use context when writing about them (e.g. refer to them in the text as "the Flower Fields-specific Monty Moles"). Bawitdaba (talk) 00:18, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

I still need screenshots of the normal and big winged Monty Mole/Rocky Wrench in the NSMBU style to use in the infobox if that is alright with you. Also, should the Rocky Wrench variants be put in variants or relatives since they are variants of Rocky Wrench rather than being their own species. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:38, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

You answered the question yourself -- they are variants, so they belong under Variants. Bawitdaba (talk) 00:43, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah that is totally fine with me. I just need to find a YouTube video with them Bawitdaba (talk) 00:44, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Ok tell me when you do that (tip: you can look at the official Super Mario Maker levels as well and also take screenshots from the sequel to). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:47, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Did you get the screenshots yet? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 02:24, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Not yet -- I'll see if I can get to them in my own time -- as I have with some of the other things on the list. Bawitdaba (talk) 02:53, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Oh other stuff on the PipeProject to do? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 03:06, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Also you agree that the Japanese Super Mario Land 2 website definitively said that Ragumo was a relative to Monty Mole and wasn’t questioning it like the wiki says? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 04:09, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

I can't think of anything. And if the website say that's the case (relative), then it probably is. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:22, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Hi, wanna do the screenshots now that I suggested for the PipeProject? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:03, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

I'm taking a break from Monty Mole stuff for today, if that's ok with you Bawitdaba (talk) 22:07, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Thats fine, we all need breaks sometimes, good news is that I found some screenshots on Vizzed that I can upload later. Also there is a confirmed release date for volume 58 of Super Mario-kun seen here: https://manga-republic.com/product/product_page_1608183.html?ref=search_page&type=search_product. You agree that this is pretty exciting (I do hope they have a Breezy Tunnel chapter). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:15, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

Yes this is great news :) Bawitdaba (talk) 23:19, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

So any plans for today (since you are taking a break from Monty Mole editing for the day)? I had an idea of making a page for Super Mario-kun like what the Super Mario Wiki has. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:25, September 21, 2022 (UTC)

I don't have anything on mind in particular Bawitdaba (talk) 00:09, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

When we make the Super Mario-kun pages, do you mind if we have like a character list for all the characters who appeared in a specific chapter? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:01, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

Yeeee that's cool with me Bawitdaba (talk) 01:06, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

Ok, wanna start that soon (like today or tomorrow maybe like after the winged mole pages)? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 02:07, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

I'll decide when to, but yeah Bawitdaba (talk) 02:45, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

Are you cool with starting when I am in school tomorrow? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 02:58, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

I could perhaps get started on the Mario-kun pages, but I'll need your help for the character lists Bawitdaba (talk) 03:05, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

I can help with the Monty Mole related chapters but I think you can help with the character lists to since you have access to the volumes as well. Mind if we do the winged Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench stuff first and then the Super Mario-kun stuff? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 03:20, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, and it will help me as well if you can tell ideas for where I can find video for winged Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench Bawitdaba (talk) 13:02, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Go on the Super Mario Wiki and look at the official levels from all three Super Mario Maker games and it can help you find videos of those levels which feature the winged variants (preferably some in the NSMBU style to use for the infobox). Maybe the level Nisekoi: Tsugumi & Marika is also good for this. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:47, September 22, 2022 (UTC)

There doesn't appear to be any winged Montys or Rockys in Nisekoi: Tsugumi & Marika. However, there's one winged Monty and a big winged Monty in the Super Mario Bros. 3-style Angry Angry Sun level in Super Mario Maker 2 (check recent changes for screencaps). Bawitdaba (talk) 00:14, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba Those could be good screenshots to use for the gallery, but I do need screenshots of the big and winged Monty Kole/Rocky Wrenches in the NSMBU style for the character infobox. My suggestions is either watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqpK3HT3hvs, looking up Monty Mole Super Mario Maker on YouTube, or looking up videos showcasing all the enemies in Super Mario Maker 1 or 2. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:30, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do when I get time -- it's late here, so I need to sleep soon Bawitdaba (talk) 02:58, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Okay, so I added two screenshots from that video. Unfortunately there are no winged Rocky/Monty variants in that video, but screenshots of Big Monty/Rocky has been added Bawitdaba (talk) 03:13, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

@Bawitdaba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bxI9DFLaso, this video is really good for screenshots of the big and winged enemies, mind taking screenshots from this video so we can make the winged Monty Mole/Rocky Wrench pages? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 04:08, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Other screenshots worth uploading: https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Facebook_Nintendo_2015-10-13_SMM_course_8.png https://www.mariowiki.com/File:NoE_WCC_2015_Oct_23_3.jpg https://www.mariowiki.com/File:NoE_WCC_2015_Oct_23_9.jpg https://www.mariowiki.com/File:NoE_WCC_2015_Dec_11_3.jpg MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 04:19, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take a look at that video. As for those images, they all on a List of fan-made Super Mario Maker courses highlighted by Nintendo article on the wiki, so may have to port that one over in general itself. Bawitdaba (talk) 11:58, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Okay, the screenshots have been added -- and in New Super Mario Bros. U-style at that Bawitdaba (talk) 12:09, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I will start making the pages right now. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:59, September 23, 2022 (UTC)

Should a page for wrenches be made? I think the big wrenches from Sticker Star and the Spanner s from Origami King could have pages to as like variants. Does that sound like a good idea? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 15:21, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it is a good idea. Bawitdaba (talk) 16:04, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Ok, wanna make the page right now and I can review over it later? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:48, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

I think you might have more of an idea on what to write for it. Bawitdaba (talk) 19:16, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Maybe, but I think you should make the page and I can make improvements later. Sound like a good plan? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:38, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Actually yeah perhaps could work like that. Bawitdaba (talk) 21:11, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Cool, just tell me when you do. Also, I made several edits and I created the big winged Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench pages if you want to check those out. Also do those big wrenches from Sticker Star and Color Splash have an official name? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:12, September 24, 2022 (UTC)

Not sure, as I don't really play the Paper Mario series apparently. I'll let you know when I get to it, yes, and can check those two articles out in my own time Bawitdaba (talk) 22:57, September 24, 2022 (UTC)