List of misconceptions

This article is under construction. Therefore, please excuse its informal appearance while it is being worked on. We hope to have it completed as soon as possible.

It has been requested that this article be rewritten. Reason: needs more neutral presentation -- reads too much like bias

This is a list of misconceptions throughout the Mario franchise and related media. This could range from considering different species (related or not) as being identical to other species, or information that is dubious. Most of these misconceptions either come from fans or the Super Mario Wiki.

Blue tuxedo Monty Moles

For the longest time, the Super Mario Adventures section on the Monty Mole page in the Super Mario Wiki incorrectly claimed that there were Monty Moles wearing blue tuxedos that appeared in the penultimate issue. However, these were Mega Moles wearing blue tuxedos and not Monty Moles as they were bigger and had the Mega Mole design features. Notably in the first page of the issue, one of the Mega Moles wearing blue tuxedos can be seen along with a Monty Mole wearing a red tuxedo.

Cheep-Chomps, Boss Basses, and other large Cheep-Cheeps

On the Super Mario Wiki, the Bubba, the Super Mario 64 DS variation of the Big Bertha, and the Mario Kart DS/Yoshi's Island DS variation of the Boss Bass were merged with the Cheep-Chomp (mostly due to the enemies sharing similar Japanese names (although this can only go so far as it would mean that the enemies could share the same name but are a separate species as we've seen several times in English releases)). Despite the fact that not only do all the enemies have different appearances, they also have different names. The Super Mario Bros. 3 version of the Boss Bass remained it's own page (despite the other renditions of the Boss Bass being confirmed to be Boss Basses by the games, guides, and even Nintendo Power). Big Bertha was also merged with Boss Bass despite her Japanese name being slightly different.

Later, Boss Bass, Big Bertha, and Big Blurp were all merged with the Mega Cheep-Cheep article (or Big Cheep Cheep as it's called there). This was an even bigger stretch as not only do the Japanese names differ, but don't even look and act the same (Boss Basses attempt to eat their targets while Mega Cheep Cheeps behave like normal Cheep Cheeps only larger). This created even more disorder as both Boss Bass and Big Bertha renditions are merged with two different articles. Not only do the enemies have different names but they also look different so they can't be the same, not to mention that Nintendo Power, the guides for the games as well as the game's themselves have confirmed the Cheep-Cheeps' true names in each game.

Enlarged Monty Mole merges

In the Super Mario Wiki, most of the enlarged Monty Moles (mainly big Monty Mole, Mega Monty Mole, and Super Choropū) all share the same page and treated like they are all the same, with Mega Monty Mole being used as the standard name.

However, big Monty Moles and Mega Monty Mole are completely separate as they both have different names in other languages (besides their Chinese names), with big Monty Moles seemingly being a natural species while Mega Monty Mole is confirmed in Mario Party: Star Rush to being a standard Monty Mole who was enlarged by Kamek. Super Choropū also seems to be an individual big Monty Mole (like Choropūko) rather than being a generic big Monty Mole due to their different name. Big Monty Mole was also merged with Mega Mole before getting their own page on the Suoer Mario Wiki.

The enlarged Monty Moles in the second Mario Kart 64 volume in 4koma Manga Kingdom and the ones in hole 7 of Wiggler Park in Mario Golf: World Tour are also labeled as Mega Monty Moles on the Super Mario Wiki, which is likely false as the name Mega Monty Mole was only used for the Mario Party boss and never used for standard enlarged Monty Moles. However, it is unknown if these enlarged Monty Moles are meant to be big Monty Moles, as the former has a completely different design and appears larger, while the latter are far larger than standard big Monty Moles.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii Bowser's Castle Ending

Some believe that in the ending of New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Bowser's Castle falls on and crushes Bowser, Bowser Jr., and all 7 of the Koopalings after the six Koopalings around him help him back up. This is however unclear as the screen fades to black before the castle lands therefore it isn't clear if all 9 of them were crushed. Bowser and the six Koopalings around him were most definitely squashed by the Castle but some claim that Larry and Bowser Jr. were crushed as well despite standing further away from the Castle's fall-radius than the others (especially Larry who was heaps far away), whether or not the Castle landed on them as well is debatable.

Moneybags and Coin Coffers being the same

Back when Super Mario 3D Land was first released, fans thought that Coin Coffers were the same as the Moneybags which debuted in Super Mario 64 due to them possessing similar traits and behaviors despite their drastically different appearances and being referred to as a different species altogether by Prima Games and Nintendo Power respectively.

Monty Mole Swoopers falling into lava

When the sections on the Monty Mole page discussing the Mario manga were summarized, one piece of info it stated was the Monty Mole Swoopers from volume 5 of Super Mario-kun fell into lava after being defeated by Mario and his friends. This is false however, as the Monty Mole Swoopers forfeited the fight when Mario and his friends backed them into a corner, with the Monty Mole Swoooers telling Mario and his friends where the pipe to Bowser's Castle is. However, other pages discussing the Monty Mole Swoopers though do not mention them falling in lava. This misinterpretation was likely caused from not reading through the manga or skimming through the original section prior to it being summarized and poor writing. It could have also been confused with the part at the end of the chapter where Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi falling in the lava, and confusing it for it saying that the Monty Mole Swoopers falling in the lava instead which does not happen.

Morty Moles and Mega Moles being the same

Back when Super Mario 3D Land first released, fans mistaken the Morty Moles who appear in that game as Mega Moles due to the both of them being enlarged Monty Moles. However, Morty Moles have a different way of being defeated and extremely different designs to that of Mega Mole and have completely different designs and different names in most languages. However, Morty Moles seem to have been based on Mega Moles during development, as their filename is the Japanese name for Mega Mole, being "Indy."

Petey Piranha's sludge balls being Glorpedos

On the Super Mario Wiki, the Glorpedos from Noki Bay in Super Mario Sunshine are treated the same as the sludge balls which Petey Piranha barfs during his second fight in Bianco Hills and his fight in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. This however is false, as the sludge balls and Glorpedos have no design similarities and function completely differently. Additionally, the Prima guide refers to the balls of goop that Petey barfs as "sludge balls" while giving the correct name for Glorpedo. The Prima Guide alongside other guidebooks Oso say that Glorpedos only appear in Noki Bay and not in Bianco Hills. The Prima Guide has also stated that the Glorpedos were created by the Monty Mole to use for his cannon.

Presenters being the same as Monty Moles

For a long time, the Presenters from Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga were mistakenly considered the exact same as standard Monty Moles by fans. However, Presenters were later found out to be their own species of Monty Mole, as they have a unique Japanese name. Additionally, Presenters have a strong resemblance to Mega Moles (more so than Monty Mole), but with additional yellow fur and a red bowtie. However, in the 3DS remake, Presenters were replaced with bowtie wearing Monty Moles that serve the same function. For a long time, people thought that these Monty Moles were a redesign to Presenters rather than being generic Monty Moles (similar to what later happened with Mawful Mole in the 3DS remake of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story). However, it was later discovered that Play Nintendo confirmed that these were just regular Monty Moles in the remake and not Presenters.

Rocky Wrench being a part of the Koopa species

In the Super Mario Wiki, Rocky Wrench is listed as being a species of Koopa. Although in various early sources for Rocky Wrench called them a turtle, Rocky Wrenches were never called a Koopa. Some people say the Japanese Super Mario Bros. 3 instruction booklet claimed that Rocky Wrench was a part of the Koopa species. However, it only said that Rocky Wrench was from the "Turtle Tribe" (which is likely just another name for the Koopa Troop).

Rocky Wrench not being a Monty Mole species

In the early days of the Super Mario Wiki, many fans debated on if Rocky Wrench is a Monty Mole species or not (with some claiming they are unrelated even with the similarities). Rocky Wrench being a turtle or a mole was also debated during this time.

However, Rocky Wrench is likely both a turtle and a mole as they are confirmed to be so in several descriptions (with older descriptions of Rocky Wrench also calling them a "mole-like turtle"). Rocky Wrenches also have many connections to Monty Mole such as their redesign in New Super Mario Bros. Wii looking nearly the same as a Monty Mole, Rocky Wrenches being grouped with Monty Moles in various guidebooks which feature the both of them, Pūko from Super Mario-kun volume 46 being both a Monty Mole and a Rocky Wrench, Super Mario Maker and its 3Ds port having Rocky Wrench becoming a Monty Mole in the course maker when shaking them and vice versa, among other pieces of evidence.

Despite all the evidence, some people back then still said Rocky Wrenches were unrelated to Monty Moles, yet ironically said Undergrunts were Monty Mole species despite the Undergrunts having no reliable official confirmation on being a part of the Monty Mole species and them also having completely different designs and attack patterns as well.

Turtle Tribe VS Koopa Troop

Some believe that the name "Turtle Tribe" is merely the Japanese name for the "Koopa Troop" (Bowser's Army) however factually, "Turtle Tribe" is actually the original name for the "Koopa Troop". In the Instruction Booklets for both Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 3 Bowser's Army is referred to as the Turtle Tribe however later games have listed the army under different names (with the most common being the Koopa Troop).

Undergrunts being Monty Moles

Back when Super Mario Galaxy first released, many fans mistaken the mole species from that game, the Undergrunts, as the exact same as Monty Moles (or a species related to them), due to the Undergrunts being the only mole species featured in Super Mario Galaxy and its sequel Super Mario Galaxy 2. Monty was also mistaken for Rocky Wrench by fans as well, due to their similar wrench throwing behaviors. This misconception was mainly from older revisions of Super Mario Wiki and various YouTube videos that are complications of Monty Moles evolution in the series (with some of said videos incorrectly showing Undergrunt species or treating them like Monty Mole species).

However, none of the Undergrunt species have no reliable official sources that confirm them being a species or relative to Monty Moles. Additionally, Undergrunts bare little to no design similarities to any Monty Mole species (despite some fans saying otherwise) and have completely separate attack patterns as well. Undergrunt Gunners are also often compared to the Monty Moles from Super Mario Sunshine, although the Undergrunt Gunner fights have completely different attacks and ways on being defeated to that of the Super Mario Sunshine Monty Mole fights with the only similarity is their manning of a cannon. Major Burrows was also originally thought of to be the leader of the Monty Mole species. However, this is false since Major Burrows is the leader of the Undergrunt species (which people confused for Monty Moles) and shares no connection to the Monty Mole species. Additionally, the E3 2010 beta for Paper Mario: Sticker Star shows a King Monty Mole which further proves that Major Burrows isn’t the leader of the species, as the King Monty Mole was made after Major Burrows was created. Although Monty has some similarities to Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench (such as having a similar name as the former and a similar attack pattern to the latter), Monty has no design resemblance to the Monty Mole species and has a different way on being defeated than to Rocky Wrench. Additionally, none of the Undergrunt species Japanese names bare no resemblance to the Japanese names for the Monty Mole species.

Some illegitimate official sources have given Montys from Super Mario Galaxy an incorrect name, such as the English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia incorrectly naming them Monty Mole and the English Mario Portal incorrectly naming them Rocky Wrench.

Vibe and Colored Enemies in Super Princess Peach

On the Super Mario Wiki, it is stated that all the enemies in Super Princess Peach that appear to be vibe infused or have different colors (such as the Red Paragoomba) are under the effects of the Vibe Scepter which was used at the beginning of the game by an affected Goomba. This however has been proven false as the effects of the Vibe Scepter were only shown to affect the room of Bowser's Villa rather than the whole island, additionally, the effects were shown to be temporary as those that were affected (such as Bowser and the Army Hammer Bro.) were shown to be back to normal later on, additionally, those that are affected by the Vibe Scepter look about the same whereas the vibe enemies look rather different to their species origin, especially in the Glossary where they're treated as a separate species rather than the same enemy. More likely the case is the enemies are naturally like that from the magic of Vibe Island (as the game's opening did state that the Island "holds great power") especially with Peach who can control her Vibes but she obviously wasn't affected as she wasn't on the Island when the Vibe Scepter was struck on Bowser's Villa. Additionally, it is shown that everyone within the radius of the Scepter was affected in both Peach's Castle and Bowser's Villa however there are several enemies that appear normal as well. It also has never officially been stated if the enemies are affected by the Scepter or not.

This article is a stub. You can help Mariopedia by expanding it.